From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 107f24,582dff0b3f065a52 X-Google-Attributes: gid107f24,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,582dff0b3f065a52 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,582dff0b3f065a52 X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,bc1361a952ec75ca X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-08-02 12:29:19 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!wn1feed!worldnet.att.net!135.173.83.71!wnfilter1!worldnet-localpost!bgtnsc06-news.ops.worldnet.att.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3B699ADF.6F091F48@yahoo.com> From: CBFalconer Reply-To: cbfalconer@worldnet.att.net Organization: Ched Research X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.functional Subject: Re: How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of service attack. References: <3B687EDF.9359F3FC@mediaone.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 19:29:18 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.90.175.140 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc06-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 996780558 12.90.175.140 (Thu, 02 Aug 2001 19:29:18 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 19:29:18 GMT Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:11129 comp.lang.c:71729 comp.lang.c++:79449 comp.lang.functional:7223 Date: 2001-08-02T19:29:18+00:00 List-Id: Goran Larsson wrote: > > In article , > Preben Randhol wrote: > > > Perhaps read it again. > > Why? > > The report clearly shows that you can have problematic software in > any language. It was also ironic that it was a compiler generated > range check on a value (that was not going to be used) that was the > event that started the destructive chain of events. The management > decision that any exception had to be due to hardware error (and > warranted a shutdown) was _perhaps_ influenced by the belief that > writing code in Ada resulted in bug free programs. :-) And you are claiming that people with such poor thinking would produce better software in equal time using a language without compile and run time checks? :-) -- Chuck F (cbfalconer@yahoo.com) (cbfalconer@XXXXworldnet.att.net) (Remove "XXXX" from reply address. yahoo works unmodified) mailto:uce@ftc.gov (for spambots to harvest)