From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 107f24,582dff0b3f065a52 X-Google-Attributes: gid107f24,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,582dff0b3f065a52 X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,bc1361a952ec75ca X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,582dff0b3f065a52 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-08-02 10:00:02 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!jfk3-feed1.news.digex.net!dca6-feed2.news.digex.net!intermedia!netnews.jhuapl.edu!not-for-mail From: Scott Ingram Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.functional Subject: Re: How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of service attack. Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 12:51:46 -0400 Organization: Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Lab, Laurel, MD, USA Message-ID: <3B698522.EEE2A1F9@silver.jhuapl.edu> References: <3B6555ED.9B0B0420@sneakemail.com> <87n15lxzzv.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> <3B672322.B5EA1B66@home.com> <3B683D3C.860BAE0A@silver.jhuapl.edu> <65bd5935.0108020356.16c61e15@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: silver.jhuapl.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: houston.jhuapl.edu 996771106 20251 128.244.80.107 (2 Aug 2001 16:51:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@houston.jhuapl.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: 2 Aug 2001 16:51:46 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.2 i686) X-Accept-Language: en Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:11103 comp.lang.c:71682 comp.lang.c++:79376 comp.lang.functional:7198 Date: 2001-08-02T16:51:46+00:00 List-Id: Beelsebob wrote: > > [origional message] > > So your point is that you can use a buggy microsoft implementation of > C++ to write a virus. > > Now then let me see... oh yes, you can use Ada (not even a buggy > implementation of it) to cause the Arian 5 rocket to try and turn > round in mid flight, and disintegrate into many tinny little burrning > pieces..... My point exactly. Ada will do what you tell it to do: including telling an Ariane 5 to fly like an Ariane 4, even though it can't possibly do that. Though that does seem a higher level problem than a buffer overflow, where you have to jump through some hoops to make that happen. -- Scott Ingram Vice-Chair, Baltimore SIGAda System Development and Operational Support Group Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory