From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 107f24,582dff0b3f065a52 X-Google-Attributes: gid107f24,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,582dff0b3f065a52 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,582dff0b3f065a52 X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,bc1361a952ec75ca X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-08-01 20:37:53 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!rcn!chnws02.mediaone.net!chnws06.ne.mediaone.net!24.128.8.202!typhoon.ne.mediaone.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3B68CB08.D1457DA6@mediaone.net> From: Ed Falis X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.functional Subject: Re: How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of service attack. References: <3B6555ED.9B0B0420@sneakemail.com> <87n15lxzzv.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> <3B672322.B5EA1B66@home.com> <3B687D41.503782DF@mediaone.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 03:37:49 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.96.132.248 X-Complaints-To: abuse@mediaone.net X-Trace: typhoon.ne.mediaone.net 996723469 65.96.132.248 (Wed, 01 Aug 2001 23:37:49 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 23:37:49 EDT Organization: Road Runner Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:11025 comp.lang.c:71507 comp.lang.c++:79236 comp.lang.functional:7144 Date: 2001-08-02T03:37:49+00:00 List-Id: Micah Cowan wrote: > > Ed Falis writes: > > > Micah Cowan wrote: > > > > > > The point is that if you look at the security bugs in Linux or Microsoft > > > > software they consists mainly of buffer overflow bugs. This comes from > > > > using languages such as C and C++ which allow buffer overflow due to > > > > their design. Other languages eliminate this problem to a large extent. > > > > > > And implementations for these other languages are typically written in > > > what? Hm? > > > > Machine code for Ada. Hm? > > Fine. And machine code doesn't have the potential for buffer overflow > problems, I presume? Sorry, I misunderstood your initial remark. Most Ada compilers are written in Ada, and produce machine code. I thought you were saying they were implemented using C as an intermediate form. You can get off your high hobby horse now. - Ed