From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,LOTS_OF_MONEY autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,bc1361a952ec75ca X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-08-01 05:06:42 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!netnews.com!xfer02.netnews.com!newsfeed2.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!news.mindspring.net!not-for-mail From: Larry Hazel Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: How to make Ada a dominant language Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 07:06:50 -0500 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Message-ID: <3B67F0DA.8D655109@mindspring.com> References: <3B6555ED.9B0B0420@sneakemail.com> <9k3l9r$10i2$1@pa.aaanet.ru> <3B656345.64AB603A@sneakemail.com> <9k3oa1$2qg8$1@pa.aaanet.ru> <3B657715.7EC592D9@sneakemail.com> <3B6588FC.6D40C443@sneakemail.com> <87snfe9sir.fsf@520075220525-0001.dialin.t-online.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: c7.ae.9d.ac Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server-Date: 1 Aug 2001 12:06:21 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,x-ns11F8K63r3NhQ,x-ns2r2e09OnmPe2 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:10935 Date: 2001-08-01T12:06:21+00:00 List-Id: Milan Mancel wrote: > > Ted Dennison wrote in message news:... > > In article , Milan Mancel > > says... > > >What really puts people off Ada is that they cannot hack code like in > > >C. In Ada you have to think first. You have to think of correct types > > > > I have heard this so much from Ada newbies over the years (ones that I'm pretty > > sure have *not* heard it from the others), that I begin to think there is a > > large amount of truth in it. But I have to admit that I can't hear that > > statement without chuckling. > > > > Often it is necessary to quick hack few lines of code, for example few > days ago I needed to fill database with testing data of 50000 random > user profiles (each user has something about 40 attributes), I would > not do it in Java and definitely not in Ada (even if I was not only > Ada newbie). Quick hack in Python did the job. And when I was writing > this script I managed to write few classes that I find so usefull that > I will rewrite them in Java and use in final application, so I think > that evolutionary principle is not that bad :) > > I think that Ada is not good for this kind of disposable code or > scripts, and I am afraid that many newbie programmers with only "one > language experience" try to switch to Ada and not to use the right > tool for the right job. > Some programs are small enough to be designed in your head or a few diagrams on a couple of sheets of paper. Once I learned Ada, I never had any problem writing such programs in Ada. It's quick and easy and usually does exactly what I want the first time. I could never do that in C, but then I don't know C very well. I know just enough to know I don't want to use it. Almost any language can be used to quickly "hack" out a small program, but you have to know the language. Larry