From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,971aa11c293c3db1 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-07-23 19:07:13 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newshub2.home.com!news.home.com!news1.rdc2.on.home.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3B5CD850.2CE344BD@home.com> From: "Warren W. Gay VE3WWG" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada The Best Language? References: <5be89e2f.0107170838.c71ad61@posting.google.com> <9j1uio$8br$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <5be89e2f.0107171810.1cee29c0@posting.google.com> <9j46bt$3qj$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <5be89e2f.0107181237.4ab3594@posting.google.com> <5be89e2f.0107191355.534211d0@posting.google.com> <7E9CC98C0715E092.A91B89D11C0D9738.014E27B4F97A2D54@lp.airnews.net> <9jgfb4025b7@drn.newsguy.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 02:07:12 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.141.193.224 X-Complaints-To: abuse@home.net X-Trace: news1.rdc2.on.home.com 995940432 24.141.193.224 (Mon, 23 Jul 2001 19:07:12 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 19:07:12 PDT Organization: Excite@Home - The Leader in Broadband http://home.com/faster Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:10489 Date: 2001-07-24T02:07:12+00:00 List-Id: "..@t" wrote: > In article <7E9CC98C0715E092.A91B89D11C0D9738.014E27B4F97A2D54@lp.airnews.net>, > > Where Ada shines, as Condic > >observes, is that the total lifecycle costs, the ongoing support costs, the > >bugfinding and fixing costs in the out years, are MUCH lower than with > >C/C++. This is an issue that some commercial software companies > >fundamentally choose to ignore: once the product is sold to the end loser, > >it isn't their problem any more, as long as the buglist is not so egregious > >as to turn the loser off forever. > > But the above is how the commerical software world works. Only the unenlightened companies have to work that way... > The manager only cares about shipping the thing out of the door on time, > so they can show they met the schedule and get the raise they wanted, they > careless how buggy or well designed or documented it is. Let the next manager > or the QA manager worry about it, becuase the manager who shipped the product > will be somewhere else by then any way. > > welcome to the realworld. The "real world" is often the one where the "end losers" are the company's own staff. The real losers are the developers that stay long enough to see their own same code again, and again, and again... Smarter departments and developers like to move onto new projects ;-) -- Warren W. Gay VE3WWG http://members.home.net/ve3wwg