From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,971aa11c293c3db1 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-07-18 14:31:29 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.stealth.net!news-east.rr.com!news-west.rr.com!lsnws01.we.mediaone.net!cyclone-LA3.rr.com!typhoon.san.rr.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3B55FFD5.9927BD6@san.rr.com> From: Darren New Organization: Boxes! X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada The Best Language? References: <3B59EE1C@MailAndNews.com> <5be89e2f.0107180606.7185b1cb@posting.google.com> <3B559E79.F21DBE5C@earthlink.net> <5be89e2f.0107181231.40bde882@posting.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 21:29:58 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.94.25.117 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: typhoon.san.rr.com 995491798 24.94.25.117 (Wed, 18 Jul 2001 14:29:58 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 14:29:58 PDT Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:10208 Date: 2001-07-18T21:29:58+00:00 List-Id: > All this to put someone down. I suggest you read my post again and > don't quote it out of context. It's very simple really, all one has > to do is indicate some hard evidence that developers are significantly > more productive with Ada 95 than say C++. Do you have anything > besides your opinions? This is a bogus question. People have provided a list of areas in which Ada makes programmers more productive than C++ does. For example, in the areas of portable real-time systems, portable multithreaded code, portable distributed programming, etc. There are other areas where Ada and C++ are approximately equivalent. Then you ask for hard evidence where Ada is superior to C++. Well, nobody is going to do a study where portable distributed multitasking is vital to success and code it in C++ and Ada just to see which works better. That's just silly. Show me hard evidence that drawing pie charts in Excel is easier than drawing pie charts by flogging the bits of the video card in raw C without any libraries? What? No evidence out there? Then surely Excel's no better than C for doing that. If your hypothetical managers aren't doing stuff where Ada is superior to C++, then they might not get "sufficient" productivity increase out of learning Ada as compared to knowing what they already know. So? -- Darren New / Senior MTS & Free Radical / Invisible Worlds Inc. San Diego, CA, USA (PST). Cryptokeys on demand. Only a WIMP puts wallpaper on his desktop.