From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,7bcba1db9ed24fa7 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-07-16 02:01:03 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!194.213.69.151!news.algonet.se!algonet!pepsi.tninet.se!not-for-mail From: Stefan Skoglund Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Why is ada dead? Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 00:57:30 +0200 Organization: Telenordia Message-ID: <3B521FDA.6C4150EB@ebox.tninet.se> References: <3B460DA9.C2965042@ix.netcom.com> <9ff447f2.0107061757.34ca0723@posting.google.com> <3B475678.C582735D@worldnet.att.net> <3b478165_3@news3.prserv.net> <3b48d207_1@news3.prserv.net> <3B490751.38523577@worldnet.att.net> <9icg1p$kpi$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <6k5nktkkuh6m90rrjgp4okmdsd0d6pfvi2@4ax.com> <3B507901.F16252AA@ebox.tninet.se> <3B50D2EC.9B294D87@worldnet.att.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: du18-241.ppp.algonet.se Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: cubacola.tninet.se 995273844 4306 195.100.241.18 (16 Jul 2001 08:57:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@algo.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 16 Jul 2001 08:57:24 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: sv,en,en-US Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:9987 Date: 2001-07-16T08:57:24+00:00 List-Id: James Rogers wrote: > I will be surprised if the US ever develops a train that can > compete with the French TGV. In the West the population is too > sparse to support the cost. In the East the cost of acquiring the > right of way would be too expensive. Current rail lines could not > be converted because they contain too many sharp turns to support > high speed rail travel. Ok i will numerate the areas of the US which i think has potential: Illinois (Chicago-St Louis, Chicago-Mpls, Chicago-Detroit) Washingto-Boston (fixing a number of nasty curves along the corridor) NorthWest (portland-vancouver) Florida California The Acela train could be competitive in the East and also California. And then we have the tilting TGV version. The North-East corridor can be improved by eliminating a number of nasty curves but it would mean investing maybe 1 bn dollar while fighting the nimby's. The problem is getting people onboard in sufficient numbers and also US citites is usually much more decentralized than european ones and they also usually has a much worser commuting system (LA is prob the worst one) Chicago is bad too due to the rapid expansion west into Illinois farmlands. Colorado could be interesting too. Col Springs-Denver A worse problem is US railways disbelief in electrification but they have part-good reasons to dislike it.