From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,7bcba1db9ed24fa7 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-07-10 13:54:49 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!rcn!chnws02.mediaone.net!chnws06.ne.mediaone.net!24.128.8.202!typhoon.ne.mediaone.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3B4B6BBA.FC9439C1@mediaone.net> From: Ed Falis X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Death by analogy Part 2 (was Re: is ada dead?) References: <3B4B3432.5BAFE9E1@easystreet.com> <3B4B4BF9.12C1E8C@lmco.com> <3B4B613B.25659225@mediaone.net> <3RJ27.14468$Kf3.166758@www.newsranger.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 20:54:48 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.96.132.248 X-Complaints-To: abuse@mediaone.net X-Trace: typhoon.ne.mediaone.net 994798488 65.96.132.248 (Tue, 10 Jul 2001 16:54:48 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 16:54:48 EDT Organization: Road Runner Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:9736 Date: 2001-07-10T20:54:48+00:00 List-Id: Ted Dennison wrote: > In article <3B4B613B.25659225@mediaone.net>, Ed Falis says... > > > >prices. Witness the (lack of) success of Aonix' windows product, that was > >priced comparably to Visual Studio, and approached it in terms of capability. > >But Ada customers wanted the kind of support they got with 5-digit development > >systems. > > IANAM (I am not a marketeer - for one thing, I'm sober), but as near as I can > tell, they never tried to sell that system the same way Visual Studio is sold. I > never once saw it on a store shelf next to the VC++, Java, and Delphi boxes, or > in a software catalog. Instead, they used the same outlets that Rational et. al. > use for their high-margin systems. If you don't go for mass sales, how can you > hope to use that business model? > > --- > T.E.D. homepage - http://www.telepath.com/dennison/Ted/TED.html > home email - mailto:dennison@telepath.com Hate to disillusion, but it was attempted, and they were unable to get shelf-space. They also tried to pursue bundling into Visual Studio, which went nowhere. I was a marketer, and was sober, though those products weren't my responsibility. - Ed