From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,7bcba1db9ed24fa7 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-07-10 12:09:27 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!204.94.211.44!enews.sgi.com!coop.net!newsfeed1.global.lmco.com!svlnews.lmms.lmco.com!not-for-mail From: William Dale Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Death by analogy Part 2 (was Re: is ada dead?) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 10:58:09 -0700 Organization: LMSSO Message-ID: <3B4B4231.2230701D@lmco.com> References: <3B4B3432.5BAFE9E1@easystreet.com> Reply-To: william.dale.jr+adanews@lmco.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.197.210.101 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:9727 Date: 2001-07-10T10:58:09-07:00 List-Id: Al Christians wrote: > > "Robert C. Leif, Ph.D." wrote: > > From my experience with AdaSAGE, the combination of a > > modern Ada database, such as Michael P. Card's FIRM, and an XML based > GUI could create some rich entrepreneurs. > > > > So, attempting to become a poster child 'rich entrepreneur' on behalf > of Ada I found some materials on-line about FIRM. It's from Lockheed > and Martin, the same people who have done so well with AdaSage. From > the web pages, I look for product or ordering info, so I can see how > much it costs to be rich entrepreneur. No info there. This is Ada and > military-industrial complex suppliers. I assume it's the same old > story: If you have to ask, you can't afford it. > > Al The real problem with products like FIRM is that DoD companies have no mechanism for selling anything. They simply do not think that way. They sell man hours to the government - not products to customers. All they can ask for from potential new users is a charge number to spend support time on. Some are thinking of making things like FIRM "Open Source" but such ideas are so foreign to DoD types (and their lawyers) it gags in their throats to say the words. They throw up hugh clouds of FUD and run around waving their arms about copyrights and patents and liability. Meanwhile no customers ever see or use the product. And no money is made. And either the stock holders or the US tax payer has paid to build another gizmo that goes into storage next to the 'Ark of the Covenant.' Who will get to see it? "The best people!" Not the opinion of my company - just my own ideas. William Dale mailto:n2rhv@arrl.net