From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,7bcba1db9ed24fa7 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-07-09 21:51:23 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!sn-xit-02!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail From: Al Christians Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Death by analogy Part 2 (was Re: is ada dead?) Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 21:54:58 -0700 Organization: Public Property Software Message-ID: <3B4A8AA2.C8005D0C@easystreet.com> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <3B460DA9.C2965042@ix.netcom.com> <9ff447f2.0107061757.34ca0723@posting.google.com> <3b47806a_4@news3.prserv.net> <3b48d27d_4@news3.prserv.net> <3B49C9A3.FB4EF7C1@west.raytheon.com> <3B49D87C.6B349412@PublicPropertySoftware.com> <3B4A0B87.B166655D@lmco.com> <3B4A2B3E.CD91C5DD@PublicPropertySoftware.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:9704 Date: 2001-07-09T21:54:58-07:00 List-Id: "Michael P. Card" wrote: > > OK, but realize here when you say "outside military and embedded > systems" you are excluding the main domains for Ada. That would be > akin to me asking you to show me a bunch of defense contractors that > switched from Ada to Java/C++ for million-line plus real-time > applications that succeeded and are still committed to Java/C++ today! It's not like Ada wasn't supposed to be good for banal, hackneyed or workaday applications. It used to be popular amongst the European banks, but have they stuck with it? And there was Sage. When Sage was in Modula-2, it was used to develop a business-type database app that was a success with many users (hundreds of public-sector organizations ???) across the US. Then Sage was converted to AdaSage, appeared on the Walnut Creek Ada CD, and was supposed to make it easy to develop run-of-the-mill database applications in Ada. What share of the run-of-the-mill database application market does Ada now hold? How successful has AdaSage been vis-a-vis Modula-2 Sage? Al