From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,7bcba1db9ed24fa7 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-07-09 19:25:43 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!sn-xit-02!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail From: Al Christians Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: is ada dead? Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 19:29:11 -0700 Organization: Public Property Software Message-ID: <3B4A6877.648EF35E@easystreet.com> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <3B460DA9.C2965042@ix.netcom.com> <9ff447f2.0107061757.34ca0723@posting.google.com> <3b47806a_4@news3.prserv.net> <3b48d27d_4@news3.prserv.net> <3B49C9A3.FB4EF7C1@west.raytheon.com> <3B49D87C.6B349412@PublicPropertySoftware.com> <1Ms27.448$TH2.11201@nnrp1.sbc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:9700 Date: 2001-07-09T19:29:11-07:00 List-Id: Pat Rogers wrote: > > > According to the Zeigler Paper (for the case of C and Ada), the productivity > boost of going to Ada was 400% IIRC. Pretty big boost, for a quite > reasonable -- and comparable -- price! YDRC. The paper doesn't say that at all. It gives cost per source line as $10.52 for C and $6.62 for Ada. OTOH it allows that Ada is more verbose than C, so not so much relative difference per delivered function. The figures are weakened some when you consider that Ada and C were not tested on identical projects, and this result is closer to whatever I said than it is to 400%. Furthermore, he concludes by saying what I typed, that other factors are more important than programming language. He attributes at least some (he doesn't say how much) of the advantage of Ada not directly to the language itself, but indirectly from the things that Ada 'encourages', ie better program design and better documentation. If a manager sees that he'll do better with better program design and better documentation, he'll try to encourage that directly before he goes into the big six figures to deploy and train a whole new set of tools. Al