From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 101deb,23963231b5359f74 X-Google-Attributes: gid101deb,public X-Google-Thread: 1073c2,23963231b5359f74 X-Google-Attributes: gid1073c2,public X-Google-Thread: fdb77,c9f2b97a84c48976 X-Google-Attributes: gidfdb77,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,23963231b5359f74 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 10a146,23963231b5359f74 X-Google-Attributes: gid10a146,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-07-04 14:00:04 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!news-out.worldnet.att.net.MISMATCH!wn3feed!worldnet.att.net!135.173.83.72!wnfilter2!worldnet-localpost!bgtnsc06-news.ops.worldnet.att.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3B4383D3.49C13CED@zipuclink.berkeley.edu> From: Phil Robyn Organization: Univ. of California, Berkeley X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.pl1,comp.lang.vrml,comp.lang.java.advocacy Subject: Re: Market pressures for more reliable software References: <9gsvr7$7ho$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <9folnd$1t8$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <3B1FE1FE.B49AE27F@noaa.gov> <9fotpi$4k6$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <3b24dc21$1@news.tce.com> <3B25D5FB.15C9B240@dresdner-bank.com> <9g5as6$hbq$1@magnum.mmm.com> <9g5ipg$roq$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <9g614i$at4$1@magnum.mmm.com> <9g7r02$mni$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <3b366a2b$6$fuzhry$mr2ice@va.news.verio.net> <9h7guv$pt1$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <3B3879CE.AC550F8E@acm.org> <3B3E73E8.F9C36524@ix.netcom.com> <3B405DDF.5C3F9207@acm.org> <3B416975.D7F0691D@ix.netcom.com> <3B432AD8.3828FB9@acm.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 21:00:03 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.81.71.9 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc06-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 994280403 12.81.71.9 (Wed, 04 Jul 2001 21:00:03 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 21:00:03 GMT Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:9443 comp.lang.java.programmer:80561 comp.lang.pl1:1197 comp.lang.vrml:3979 comp.lang.java.advocacy:22647 Date: 2001-07-04T21:00:03+00:00 List-Id: "Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz" wrote: > <<>> > Well enough. Can you say RAX? QUICKTRAN? CRBE? CRJE? RJE? SGJP? ATS? HASP Multileaving? And > that's just IBM supplied. There were also ALPHA, ROSCOE (nee WRAP) and Wylbur on S/360 I'm still using Wylbur (the PC version) on WinNT!!!! > , and > others on non-IBM hardware. There was enough time sharing and remote batch to drive a market > in plug-compatible terminals and modems. > > <<>> -- Phil Robyn Univ. of California, Berkeley u n z i p m y a d d r e s s t o s e n d e - m a i l