From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII X-Google-Thread: 103376,45c857e19c4ee2df X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-06-27 09:08:31 PST Message-ID: <3B3A02ED.456FED12@amsjv.com> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 16:59:41 +0100 From: Philip Anderson Organization: Alenia Marconi Systems ISD X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada95 calendar package question References: <9hbb9n$g14$1@fang.dsto.defence.gov.au> <3B395724.6B4B9B67@worldnet.att.net> <9hc5n4$jl$1@infosun2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> <9hcmq5$m93$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <3B39E6C2.680A5CA@ftw.rsc.raytheon.com> <9hcr23$o0d$1@nh.pace.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit NNTP-Posting-Host: cwmwkn0612.cwmbran.gecm.com X-Trace: 27 Jun 2001 16:50:54 GMT, cwmwkn0612.cwmbran.gecm.com Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!195.158.233.21!news1.ebone.net!news.ebone.net!diablo.netcom.net.uk!netcom.net.uk!dispose.news.demon.net!demon!btnet-peer0!btnet-feed5!btnet!newreader.ukcore.bt.net!pull.gecm.com!cwmwkn0612.cwmbran.gecm.com Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:9152 Date: 2001-06-27T16:59:41+01:00 List-Id: Marin David Condic wrote: > > Well, its been discussed here before. Like I said, there is a certain amount > of arbitrariness to it - make Wednesday be the first day if you like - but I > don't think it is inaccurate to point out that *historically*, Sunday is the > first day of the week and any other convention is ignoring a lot of history. > One can ignore history at one's own risk. :-) No, the history was fine. But to jump from there to saying "most calendars ..." was dangerous; saying "most" in an international, multicultural, multidisciplinary forum like this often is :-) > Odd that it was Roman calendars (European) that pretty much set Sunday as > the first day of the week and now the Europeans don't use this convention > while the US still does. When was it Europe decided to pitch their own > standard? I don't know. After the French Revolution perhaps? But the ISO standard can no doubt be dated. My (British English) dictionary defines Sunday as the first day of the week and I still think of it that way if asked (and so do the Seventh Day Adventists obviously); but calendars, diaries and week-numbering here all start with a Monday. Timetables too use 1-7 stgarting from Monday. Maybe we should use 0-6, so Sunday is the first day, but Monday is Day 1? Personally I find it much more convenient to be able to write a weekend event across two consecutive boxes than at the end of one row and the beginning of the next. But are Americans allowed to include Sunday in a "weekend"? :-) -- hwyl/cheers, Philip Anderson Alenia Marconi Systems Cwmbr�n, Cymru/Wales