From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fdb77,c9f2b97a84c48976 X-Google-Attributes: gidfdb77,public X-Google-Thread: 1158e3,c9f2b97a84c48976 X-Google-Attributes: gid1158e3,public X-Google-Thread: 101deb,23963231b5359f74 X-Google-Attributes: gid101deb,public X-Google-Thread: 1073c2,23963231b5359f74 X-Google-Attributes: gid1073c2,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,23963231b5359f74 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 10a146,23963231b5359f74 X-Google-Attributes: gid10a146,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-06-14 10:55:41 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!sn-xit-02!supernews.com!nntp-relay.ihug.net!ihug.co.nz!news-hog.berkeley.edu!ucberkeley!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!rcn!newsfeed1.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!newsmaster1.prod.itd.earthlink.net!newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3B28FA82.9070309@earthlink.net> From: Charles Hixson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win95; en-US; rv:0.9.1) Gecko/20010607 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,ccomp.lang.clarion,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.pl1,comp.lang.vrml,comp.lang.java.advocacy Subject: Re: Market pressures for more reliable software References: <3B25D5FB.15C9B240@dresdner-bank.com> <9g5as6$hbq$1@magnum.mmm.com> <9g5ipg$roq$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <9g614i$at4$1@magnum.mmm.com> <9g7r02$mni$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <9g840k$qjt$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <40gfitgrvd8cgu27r3vfib6eptmapb3pfl@4ax.com> <9g8lrk$37c$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <9ganmu$pj5$1@nh.pace.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 17:55:40 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.94.156.19 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net 992541340 198.94.156.19 (Thu, 14 Jun 2001 10:55:40 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 10:55:40 PDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net X-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 10:53:36 PDT (newsmaster1.prod.itd.earthlink.net) Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:8741 comp.lang.java.programmer:76388 comp.lang.pl1:1034 comp.lang.vrml:3803 comp.lang.java.advocacy:21121 Date: 2001-06-14T17:55:40+00:00 List-Id: Ted Dennison wrote: > In article <9ganmu$pj5$1@nh.pace.co.uk>, Marin David Condic says... > ... > Anyway, better minds than ours (OK, better than mine at least) have been all > over this nomenclature issue to exhaustion. I doubt we'll be able to fix it > here, short of switching this whole thread to French. > > --- > T.E.D. homepage - http://www.telepath.com/dennison/Ted/TED.html > home email - mailto:dennison@telepath.com > Well, I don't suppose that too many people would misunderstand if you said software libre (sorry about the missing accent, but I don't know how to type one wo switching to html). Unfortunatly for the "liberated software" suggestion, that also has a couple of overloaded meanings that context couldn't disambiguate. (i.e., prior enslavement and theft). Liberty software would have the right meaning if it were the right part of speech. My personal choice is, e.g., GPL software. That's too specific to cover the entire field, however, as, e.g., BSD, Artistic, NPL, MPL, ... etc. are all parts of the set currently designated by the term "free software". Freedom software? Again the wrong part of speech. Open Software designates another, larger, group of licenses. The set "Open Software" properly contains the set "Free Software". It matters not. By this stage, nobody would be willing to change what they were calling things, and if they did, then it would just increase the confusion, as you can be sure that not everybody would switch. But there is reason behind the choice of name. It just wasn't centered on money. -- Charles Hixson Copy software legally, the GNU way! Use GNU software, and legally make and share copies of software. See http://www.gnu.org http://www.redhat.com http://www.linux-mandrake.com http://www.calderasystems.com/ http://www.linuxapps.com/