From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,4871bb700d475964 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-06-06 20:15:50 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.stealth.net!news-east.rr.com!news.rr.com!chnws02.mediaone.net!chnws06.ne.mediaone.net!24.128.8.202!typhoon.ne.mediaone.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3B1EF203.D04F2C5F@mediaone.net> From: Ed Falis X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: an interested business-oriented programmer References: <3B1EED20.C607AB28@worldnet.att.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 03:15:46 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.96.132.248 X-Complaints-To: abuse@mediaone.net X-Trace: typhoon.ne.mediaone.net 991883746 65.96.132.248 (Wed, 06 Jun 2001 23:15:46 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 23:15:46 EDT Organization: Road Runner Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:8286 Date: 2001-06-07T03:15:46+00:00 List-Id: James Rogers wrote: > "Beard, Frank" wrote: > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Gary Scott [mailto:Gary.L.Scott@lmtas.lmco.com] > > > > > Hi, > > > So why doesn't someone put together a "Visual Ada" product integrated > > > with Visual Studio and mass market it? They did it for Fortran... > > > > That's what Aonix ObjectAda is, but I think for the past year or more > > the marketing has become somewhat deficient. > > About two years ago I was helping an experienced Visual C++ > developer use the Aonix ObjectAda tools. He recognized the Aonix > interface as being a rather old version of Visual Studio. He really > liked using Visual Studio. His answer was to make a few > customizations of the Visual Studio configuration files, allowing > the current version to fully support development using ObjectAda. > > To his amazement, the standard Visual Studio debugger worked better > on ObjectAda than it did on Visual C++. He saw more detailed > information about arrays, collections (records in Ada, classes in C++), > and better dereferencing of Ada access types than C++ pointers and > references. > > He immediately appreciated Ada. He also liked the matrix manipulation > packages he found and downloaded to help him produce Kalman filters. > > Jim Rogers > Colorado Springs, Colorado USA Yep, and it was even better with Phar Lap's plugin for ETS - registers, I/O space, interrupt controller and thread state. Oh my. When Dave Wood was driving the product management for ObjectAda for windows, he really was reaching for a Visual Ada. MS wasn't all that interested in an Ada plugin, which was one of the approaches considered. So, Dave's team (myself included) did a major overhaul for OA 7.2. The result wasn't too bad, though I always found the GUI builder a bit weak and annoying. David Botton's GNATCOM stuff is a lot stronger in many ways. But what can I say - I work for ACT now ;-) - Ed