From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII X-Google-Thread: 107f24,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gid107f24,public X-Google-Thread: f4fd2,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gidf4fd2,public X-Google-Thread: 103d24,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gid103d24,public X-Google-Thread: 114809,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gid114809,public X-Google-Thread: 1164ba,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gid1164ba,public X-Google-Thread: 10259a,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gid10259a,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,ea8ea502d35ca2ce X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-05-13 04:34:03 PST Path: archiver1.sj.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!sn-xit-03!supernews.com!freenix!fr.usenet-edu.net!usenet-edu.net!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!newsfeed1.news.nl.uu.net!sun4nl!reader1.news.nl.uu.net!not-for-mail From: Karel =?iso-8859-1?Q?Th=F6nissen?= Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.lisp,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.lang.basic,comp.lang.functional,comp.lang.scheme,comp.lang.perl Subject: Re: [OT] Software Engineering at 14 Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 13:38:52 +0200 Organization: UUNET-NL (http://www.nl.uu.net) Message-ID: <3AFE724C.31E70509@hello.nl> References: <9cukad$nn68@news-dxb> <9d6b6e$1bt$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <87snihxiwc.fsf@frown.here> <9dbi83$sji$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <87heyu7cqd.fsf@frown.here> <9dc20p$hh15e$1@ID-37382.news.dfncis.de> <9ddfv2$gl3$1@merrimack.Dartmouth.EDU> <9dh21o$i8crr$2@ID-37382.news.dfncis.de> <9dhtr9$59d$1@merrimack.Dartmouth.EDU> <7iurft0hbh4ilp040t9vob6bmhbfsavgkb@4ax.com> <9dliea$ies$2@bird.wu-wien.ac.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: 1cust51.tnt33.rtm1.nl.uu.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: porthos.nl.uu.net 989753628 15476 213.116.160.51 (13 May 2001 11:33:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@nl.uu.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 May 2001 11:33:48 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [nl]C-CCK-MCD (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: nl,de,en Xref: archiver1.sj.google.com comp.lang.ada:7451 comp.lang.lisp:9943 comp.lang.smalltalk:9632 comp.lang.functional:5595 comp.lang.scheme:3763 comp.lang.perl:2702 Date: 2001-05-13T11:33:48+00:00 List-Id: Markus Mottl schreef: > The example of Belgium, the country that most strongly supported the > sanctions (*) against the Austrian government, shows how easy it is to see > the splinter in someone else's eye but not the log in one's own. Whereas This minister was fired within a week, so the similarity with many of the countries mentioned earlier is rather weak: they did as they preached. > their foreign minister participated in heavy criticism against Austria, > their minister of internal affairs was a member of an SS-organisation Bollocks. The minister of foreign affairs was the federal minister. The person that you call minister of internal affairs was not a federal minister: he was minister of internal affairs for Flanders. Note that he did not survive the political debate within the Flemish parliament. > over the last 25 (!) years as was recently discovered (he was fired, > he didn't go voluntarily). I don't want to know what would have happened > if Austria had dared to proclaim such ministers in crucial positions. We > might have been nuked. -- Groeten, Karel Th�nissen Hello Technologies develops high-integrity software for complex systems