From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,12e84687980d42ab X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 11232c,8a110400cf18f264 X-Google-Attributes: gid11232c,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-05-04 21:30:43 PST Path: newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.direct.ca!look.ca!newsfeed1.earthlink.net!newsfeed2.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!news.mindspring.net!not-for-mail From: Lao Xiao Hai Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,misc.misc Subject: Re: "Ada 95 is certainly aimed at serious software engineering." in article. Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 21:29:57 -0700 Organization: AdaWorks Software Engineering Message-ID: <3AF381C5.A84ABF74@ix.netcom.com> References: <9cchj2011md@drn.newsguy.com> <200104282347.QAA24952@well.com> Reply-To: richard@adaworks.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 3f.35.b3.79 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server-Date: 5 May 2001 04:30:38 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en Xref: newsfeed.google.com comp.lang.ada:7192 misc.misc:2752 Date: 2001-05-05T04:30:38+00:00 List-Id: I know the author of this piece rather well. He has also written a very interesting book, "Object Unencapsulated." Mr Dolan, in his comments, is correct that Ian has a slight Eiffel bias. That is a result of some serious comparative study of Eiffel, C++, and Java. His book is much more detailed, if anyone wants to check the details supporting his conclusions. I have suggested to him often that he might include Ada in the next version of his book. Perhaps this will happen and the details will support a different conclusion. Either way, Mr. Joyner is correct in his assessment of C++ as dangerous for serious programming. It seems the danger is of little concern to those who use it. I like the phrase someone used to state, "C++ is its own virus." That corresponds nicely to Mr. Joyner's views, I think. Richard Riehle ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kent Paul Dolan wrote: > > http://www.elj.com/cppcv3/s5/ > > > After reading the above, I wonder why anyone would use C or C++ in > > place of Ada. > > That is an interesting conclusion, from rather > thin support in the article you cite. > > To me, the _entire_ substantive content of the > article could be stated: > > C++ is no good, Eiffel is great. > > The rest was just noise, conclusions without evidence. > > It was certainly kind of the author to mention > Ada, but to me that mention was more a dismissal, > and "oh, sure, Ada is _aimed_ at serious software > engineering, now moving right along to something > important", not a recommendation. > > Cheers! > > xanthian. > -- > Kent Paul Dolan > > -- > Posted from smtp.well.com [208.178.101.27] > via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG