From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 11232c,ab67bdd1ff50fd8 X-Google-Attributes: gid11232c,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,c8086456b887be55 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-04-27 11:03:07 PST Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,misc.misc Path: newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.skycache.com!Cidera!news-reader.ntrnet.net!uunet!ash.uu.net!xyzzy!nntp From: Jeffrey Carter Subject: Re: Ada, Software Engineering and "weirdoes" (was License to Steal) X-Nntp-Posting-Host: e246420.msc.az.boeing.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <3AE9AD0B.79593A@boeing.com> Sender: nntp@news.boeing.com (Boeing NNTP News Access) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: The Boeing Company X-Accept-Language: en References: <92HD6.3345$D4.334091@www.newsranger.com> <200104240531.WAA01552@well.com> <3AE5A34F.B89C8D5F@boeing.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 17:31:55 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-CCK-MCD Boeing Kit (WinNT; U) Xref: newsfeed.google.com comp.lang.ada:6989 misc.misc:2631 Date: 2001-04-27T17:31:55+00:00 List-Id: Peter Richtmyer wrote: > > "Jeffrey Carter" wrote in message > news:3AE5A34F.B89C8D5F@boeing.com... > > This has something to > > do with how people's brains are wired; only weirdoes can be software > > engineers. > > I question the term "weirdoes". We have qualities (perhaps) and modes of > operation when programming that are fairly rare. I am not sure that "rare" > should be confused with "weird". I am not a linguist, but I just looked up > "weird" in my Webster's, and I do not think it fits. Ironically, I had > Webster's > out because earlier I had looked up "peer", because we are going through > "peer reviews", and I felt that most of those "peers" of mine were not, by > definition, my peers. Except that we ("software engineers") are not > "ranked" > based upon the "software engineering" that we do. We are ranked based > upon so many other factors (including coding). A "weirdo" in common American usage is simply someone who is significantly different from the norm; it was not uncommon when I was in school to hear it applied to stereotypical nerds. I did not use it seriously, but merely to emphasize that those capable of becoming software engineers differ from a significant majority of the population. This implies that cost-effective development of high-quality software cannot be accomplished through the "replaceable moron" approach most organizations are so enamored of.