From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII X-Google-Thread: 103376,571930b4ff0bc1ee X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-03-30 06:31:28 PST Path: supernews.google.com!sn-xit-02!supernews.com!news.gv.tsc.tdk.com!news.iac.net!news-out.cwix.com!newsfeed.cwix.com!newsfeed.mathworks.com!newsfeed2.news.nl.uu.net!sun4nl!reader1.news.nl.uu.net!not-for-mail From: Karel =?iso-8859-1?Q?Th=F6nissen?= Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Compile time executed functions [OT] Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 16:27:06 +0200 Organization: UUNET-NL (http://www.nl.uu.net) Message-ID: <3AC497BA.E125FAB6@hello.nl> References: <3AC03CCE.70E3C2D5@mida.se> <87ae67qdrv.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> <87lmprow3a.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> <874rweoo2p.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> <3AC2EE4D.56D61A58@mida.se> <3AC2E665.F45C18A@home.com> <87hf0cs7ci.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: 1cust38.tnt2.rtm1.nl.uu.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: porthos.nl.uu.net 985962391 6344 213.116.98.38 (30 Mar 2001 14:26:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@nl.uu.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 30 Mar 2001 14:26:31 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [nl]C-CCK-MCD (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: nl,de,en Xref: supernews.google.com comp.lang.ada:6244 Date: 2001-03-30T14:26:31+00:00 List-Id: Brian Rogoff schreef: > it's a bit unfair to criticize Godel since we don't have an umlaut; I've > seen it spelled "Goedel" in umlaut free texts. And the Nederlands Using the e for the umlaut is correct. Originally, the umlaut was a small e on its side. Said the Dutchman with an umlaut in his name (-8 > challenged American might also spell it "Esher" since that's how we > pronounce that name, I'll have to check but if Escher is pronounced the > way it's spelled (I thought most Dutch words were) then the "ch" is like > the ch in Bach. In Dutch, the name Escher is pronounced as /esher/. The correspondence of spelling and pronounciation is a lot better than in English, but not quite as good as in Italian, French or German. However, in this case we deal with a name that was originally German, therefore /esher/. You are right on how the /sch/ is pronounced in general. This sound is so difficult for foreigners that it can be used as a password in times of war. Say Scheveningen. What is it that many English speaking people have with the spelling and/or pronounciation of the names of Dutch artists? Why is the name of Piet Mondriaan always spelled incorrectly? Or Vincent van Gogh's name which is unrecognisably pronounced and alphabetized under /v/ instead of /g/ ? -- Groeten, Karel Th�nissen Hello Technologies develops high-integrity software for complex systems