From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,ce1e7170ab2bc91c X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-03-26 13:39:40 PST Path: supernews.google.com!sn-xit-02!supernews.com!news.gv.tsc.tdk.com!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!news-hog.berkeley.edu!ucberkeley!enews.sgi.com!coop.net!newsfeed1.global.lmco.com!svlnews.lmms.lmco.com!not-for-mail From: William Dale Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Why do so many companies use Apex? Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 13:25:01 -0800 Organization: LMSSO Message-ID: <3ABFB3AD.DF3AA617@lmco.com> References: <_pNv6.15345$ue1.1278082@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Reply-To: william.dale.jr+adanews@lmco.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.197.10.38 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en Xref: supernews.google.com comp.lang.ada:6079 Date: 2001-03-26T13:25:01-08:00 List-Id: I concur with your observations. Rational was once targeting big DoD companies but has been pushing its C++ tools out here in Silly Valley lately. It seems that mangers spend big bucks on tools because all the best tools cost the most ( ha! ) I keep pushing Open Source tools (and Gnat) but nobody listens. The real pity is that many people have only seen Ada on Rational Apex and think that this turkey is the real 'Ada'. Bill Phaedrus wrote: > > I've been developing with Ada since the mid 80's, and I don't think > that I've ever encountered a development environment as bad as > the Apex Ada environment. > [SNIP] > So, why do people keep buying this turkey? And don't try and give me that, > "It's okay > once you get used to it" argument, would you like a hot stove if you sat on it > long > enough? Granted, with Rational buying out most of the other Ada compiler > companies > (Can anybody say "antitrust"? Would somebody PLEASE say it to Rational? In an > official way, if possible.) there aren't many vendors left to buy from, but even > old Vax > Ada kicks it's butt for development. > > Phaedrus