From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,447bd1cf7a88c198 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-01-08 16:39:06 PST Path: supernews.google.com!sn-xit-02!supernews.com!news.gv.tsc.tdk.com!falcon.america.net!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!200.226.6.82!not-for-mail From: Cesar Scarpini Rabak Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Do we need "Mission-Critical" software? Was: What to Do? Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 22:28:34 -0200 Organization: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fam=EDlia?= Rabak Message-ID: <3A5A5B32.A6358672@uol.com.br> References: <3A4F5A4A.9ABA2C4F@chicagonet.net> <3A4F759E.A7D63F3F@netwood.net> <3A50ABDF.3A8F6C0D@acm.org> <92qdnn$jfg$1@news.huji.ac.il> <3A50C371.8B7B871@home.com> <3A51EC04.91353CE7@uol.com.br> <3A529C97.2CA4777F@home.com> <3A53CB9E.EA7CF86C@uol.com.br> <3A5466DE.811D43A5@acm.org> <932aol$ikc$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <932mi6$r2k$1@trog.dera.gov.uk> <9343b1$3g5$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <934iuf$eqv$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <937kc7$ssq$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <93c0e9$4u6$1@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 200.226.6.82 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 979000436 10298646 200.226.6.82 (16 [39218]) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [pt_BR] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.13 i586) X-Accept-Language: en Xref: supernews.google.com comp.lang.ada:3786 Date: 2001-01-08T22:28:34-02:00 List-Id: n_brunot@my-deja.com wrote: > > In article <937kc7$ssq$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, > Robert Dewar wrote: > > > Through the history of Ada we have had people saying > > "If only we did X, then Ada would be more widely used" > > > > But most of these claims have proved experimentally false, and > > I think this is another such case. If someone produced a much > > improved c2ada, I doubt this would suddenly make Ada popular. > > I agree. > Experimentally, one must aknowledge that today Ada is far less popular > than other languages, even than much younger ones. > This will not suddenly and magically change without real questions and > answers about that. > Most explanations we read can unfortunately be summarized by : > > "Ada is the best, the rest of the world should start to understand it" > followed by a bunch of technical justifications > > This is the main thing that really experimentally proved to be totally > counterproductive, even if this is often true. > Only Ada users really care about those explanations. > So the result is that Ada users keep convincing one another that they > made the best choice. > This is totally useless since they are already convinced. > The only consequence is that this keep us blind at the fact that we > haven't the slightest chance to promote Ada with this attitude. > > Anybody who talked about Ada to software people not using Ada (which are > unfortunately everything but a minority) knows that the usual answer is : > "Ada ? this still exists ???" > Worse! Research firms like Gartner Group and its peers classify Ada as a "mature" language "not recommended" for new projects. . . the next stage is "obsolecent" when they recommend the substitution of the program or rewrite in another language. It should come in 3 to 5 years! Cesar