From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,d75ee07dcc96f62e X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2000-12-11 19:07:56 PST Path: supernews.google.com!sn-xit-02!supernews.com!newsfeed.mesh.ad.jp!newshub2.rdc1.sfba.home.com!news.home.com!news1.rdc2.on.home.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3A35961D.BFB4B03D@home.com> From: "Warren W. Gay VE3WWG" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada to Boldly Go... (Was: Status of Ada??) References: <2KeX5.129$6O2.1845@newsfeed.slurp.net> <3A31B5BC.240DFBF6@home.com> <3A352484.DAF29D79@lmco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 03:07:55 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.141.193.52 X-Complaints-To: abuse@home.net X-Trace: news1.rdc2.on.home.com 976590475 24.141.193.52 (Mon, 11 Dec 2000 19:07:55 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 19:07:55 PST Organization: Excite@Home - The Leader in Broadband http://home.com/faster Xref: supernews.google.com comp.lang.ada:2969 Date: 2000-12-12T03:07:55+00:00 List-Id: William Dale wrote: > Exactly my point at the SGIAda 2000. Get the "Hobbyists" involved! > I presented a view of Ham Radio software as a platform for Ada > development that covers a wide set of domains - logging, digital/packet, > satellite communications - and many more. I missed all that excitement (SIGAda) but I am glad to hear of the "plugs". > Linux is a good platform for much of this and lots of Ham S/W is already > available. > > Look for more on this after the first of the year. Bravo N2RHV. 73 > N2RHV - EC Milpitas > http://www.qsl.net/mares > mailto:n2rhv@arrl.net > > "Warren W. Gay VE3WWG" wrote: > > > > /dev/null wrote: > > > > > In article , > > > JM wrote: > > > > > > > > Does anyone believe Ada will become more popular in the future? > > > ...snip... > > > The most common class of security bugs in software being exploited > > > today is buffer overflows. Buffer overflows are very common in > > > C/C++, uncommon in Ada, Eiffel, etc. > > > > > > Eventually one of those holes is going to be exploited in such a > > > way as to bring down a major bank or stock exchange. Once a bug > > > threatens the nation's economy, Congress will act swiftly to track > > > down and outlaw the causes. If somebody convinces Congress, say > > > Peter Neumann of comp.risks fame, that eliminating C/C++ would > > > solve most buffer overflows, C/C++ will be out the door faster than > > > you can say C ...SNIP... > > > > I don't think that scenario is very likely.. What is needed, is > > more exposure to Open Source developers in general... i.e. more useful > > projects for Linux/FreeBSD/whatever > > that people need/want, written in Ada95. This will: > > > > 1. Require that people have the Ada95 (GNAT) _installed_ on their machine > > (if they want to compile the project). > > 2. The GNAT RPM's are making this easier for this to happen, especially > > for the non-Ada aware. > > 3. People will start tinkering with Ada95, when they want to make changes > > to the same said project(s) > > 4. More Linux/FreeBSD distributions will start including Ada95 as a ready > > to go option (or included as a standard offering). > > 5. People will start to see the advantages of Ada95 as they tinker > > 6. More people get to know the language.. > > 7. You start to see more books on the subject of Ada (giving it more > > credibility, and adding to the curiosity factor) > > 8. More Ada95 projects will follow? > > > > If people start contributing solid applications written in Ada95, without the > > buffer exploits and other risks, then perhaps others will take notice. Until > > then, die-hard C/C++/Java fans, will likely stick to what they already know > > and love. > > > > If I was to be bold, I would start by suggesting people do Ada95 re-writes > > of the many _SERVERS_ that have exploits published for them every week. > > I hate trusting my host to the wild Internet, knowing about all these > > exploits sitting there. I plan to contribute in this area myself. > > > > -- > > Warren W. Gay VE3WWG > > http://members.home.net/ve3wwg -- Warren W. Gay VE3WWG http://members.home.net/ve3wwg