From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,b50bc6538a649497 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: Nicolas Brunot Subject: Re: Ada student homework ? Date: 2000/11/13 Message-ID: <3A0FB954.1D013570@cadwin.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 693001845 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <3A02CED4.520C2768@brighton.ac.uk> <3A078B6F.D34B024B@erols.com> <8ua3m1$bru$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <3A0916BB.584C6C60@cadwin.com> <3A0952B9.34BE19D1@cadwin.com> <3A0A2E53.DD650D8A@ix.netcom.com> <3A0A6B56.7437E9E7@cadwin.com> <3A0B68EF.A06B276D@ix.netcom.com> <3A0BC243.4A9CFC90@cadwin.com> <3A0C0BEE.347F659C@acm.org> <3A0C0E6C.C0218812@cadwin.com> <8ujq1t$4o5$1@nnrp1.deja.com> X-Accept-Language: fr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: abuse@proxad.net X-Trace: nnrp2.proxad.net 974109050 212.27.45.95 (Mon, 13 Nov 2000 10:50:50 CET) Organization: Guest of ProXad - France MIME-Version: 1.0 NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 10:50:50 CET Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 2000-11-13T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Robert Dewar wrote ; > In article <3A0C0E6C.C0218812@cadwin.com>, > Nicolas Brunot wrote: > > I would just add that fighting against that is not 'hard'. > > It simply makes your company disappear in short time. > > We would like to see more Ada users understand that. > > That's wrong as a generalization. We know many Ada users > who regard Ada as the key to having some chance of producing > realiable software for the NT environment. Which is exactly what we've been doing quite successfully for more than 10 years and we intend to to go on :-) I don't know a lot of CAD and Oracle applications as complex as ours entirely written in Ada The problem is that among Windows programmers (or every other OS programmers), Ada users are everything but 'many' Do Ada users want it to remain a confidential language, or do they want it to be used by many programmers, which means many companies, because most programmers write softwares because it's their job, and because they get paid for that by a company. Otherwise, they would do something else. Of course in the first case, some people are very proud to be part of an 'elite' and for that it's far easier to stay in his own small world, and keep it very small, so you have less chance finding stupid people making better software than you, and achieving things you claim impossible. But in the second case, you would be more likely to find easily Ada components and people to develop. > Most certainly if Nicolas finds that using Ada is making his > company disappear in short time, he is doing something wrong. > Either Ada is the wrong choice *for him* or the company or > development effort is being otherwise mismanaged, but it is > bogus for him to assume that his experience necessarily > generalizes to all other companies! The wrong choice is denying the fact that Windows and moreover C components are almost everywhere in software world, and that you can't ignore it. Please just take the time to read the posts before answering :-)