From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,b50bc6538a649497 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: Jerry Petrey Subject: Re: Ada student homework ? Date: 2000/11/08 Message-ID: <3A098D92.EB8F7B34@west.raytheon.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 691275324 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <3A02CED4.520C2768@brighton.ac.uk> <3A078B6F.D34B024B@erols.com> <8ua3m1$bru$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <3A0916BB.584C6C60@cadwin.com> <8ube4s$c2v$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <3A09416E.4C9BE1C8@cadwin.com> <8ubus7$pne$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <3A09851A.D1D5D4D1@cadwin.com> X-Accept-Language: en Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: news@ext.ray.com X-Trace: dfw-service2.ext.raytheon.com 973704629 147.24.131.12 (Wed, 08 Nov 2000 11:30:29 CST) Organization: Raytheon Company MIME-Version: 1.0 NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 11:30:29 CST Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 2000-11-08T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Nicolas Brunot wrote: > > Ted Dennison Wrote > > > I don't think so. If I can be brutally honest here, anyone who has that > > much trouble figuring out how an "if" statement works will *never* be a > > programmer, Ada or otherwise. > > > > This might be a reasonable issue to bring up in one of those "You don't > > do bit masking in Ada, you dummy you." threads. But this is not one of > > those threads. In fact, the tone there generally seems to be more like > > what you are looking for. > > I think this is like advertising. > Excellent advertising for quite bad product can be very profitable. > Poor advertising for an excellent product leads usually to spectacular > failure. > > You'll never make the most stupid student programmer become a good one > being aggressive or despising, but doing that you can give a bad image and > make potential good one go away. > There no benefit, and potential loss. > > If you ever have to promote something to somebody, it's not a good idea to > tell him he is stupid, even if that is true. > > It's quite well known in software development (but may be not enough in Ada > community) that Ada advertising is not especially a success story. Good point. I think we, in this group, should do everything we can to promote Ada and give it a good image. If someone ask a question that we think (or even know) is a homework assignment, we should be happy that someone is trying to learn Ada. Give him hints and references without actually doing the work for him but don't bash him either. That way he will hopefully learn something and we, who represent Ada, won't look bad either. Jerry -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Jerry Petrey -- Senior Principal Systems Engineer - Navigation, Guidance, & Control -- Raytheon Missile Systems - Member Team Ada & Team Forth -- NOTE: please remove NOSPAM in email address to reply -----------------------------------------------------------------------------