From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII X-Google-Thread: 103376,b50bc6538a649497 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: Nicolas Brunot Subject: Re: Ada student homework ? Date: 2000/11/08 Message-ID: <3A09416E.4C9BE1C8@cadwin.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 691168409 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit References: <3A02CED4.520C2768@brighton.ac.uk> <3A078B6F.D34B024B@erols.com> <8ua3m1$bru$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <3A0916BB.584C6C60@cadwin.com> <8ube4s$c2v$1@nnrp1.deja.com> X-Accept-Language: fr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Complaints-To: abuse@proxad.net X-Trace: nnrp5.proxad.net 973685134 212.27.47.127 (Wed, 08 Nov 2000 13:05:34 CET) Organization: Guest of ProXad - France MIME-Version: 1.0 NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 13:05:34 CET Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 2000-11-08T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: I don't think you have any lessons to give to students which are not yours. Most of the time, Ada lessons are given to students old enough to be responsible for their behavior. The main point here is how Ada programmers are considered by non Ada programmers. If Ada wants to be promoted, some of Ada programmers should try to consider what the real world looks like. The purpose of comp.lang.ada is in my opinion not to rule the world and decide what is wrong or not. More than that, this shows Ada as a language of scholar people judging the rest of the world, and not as an efficient language for software industry. Robert Dewar a �crit : > In article <3A0916BB.584C6C60@cadwin.com>, > Nicolas Brunot wrote: > > > I don't think most people take really the time to check if it > > is really a homework or not before answering like that > > Nicolas, really, of *course* this was an assignment, that > was truly obvious (actually if you read the rest of the thread > then in fact we know the exact school and the due date!) > > It really is very inappropriate for people to ask someone > on the net to do their homework for them. It happens > frequently, indeed, and sad to say, I have had several > students fail courses because they handed in work from > the net pretending it was their own. > > It is reasonable to ask for pointers, but it is NOT appropriate > for students to ask for solutions, as was clearly the case > here. In fact we did the student a favor, if someone had > simply sent the solution off, and the student turned it in > as their own work, then they could *really* be in trouble! > > The honest way for a student to proceed here is to send a > question like the following > > "I am working on an assignment to fontasize an ostritch > in Ada, and I wondered if someone could point me in the > right direction, since I am having trouble figuring out > how to get started with fontasization in Ada." > > If you look at past threads, you will see that a request > like this almost always gets helpful responses. > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.