From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,e6d1607a5397de6b X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2000-11-01 12:08:14 PST Path: supernews.google.com!sn-xit-02!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail From: "E. Robert Tisdale" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Is the Ada World Embarrassed by the Defense Industry? Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 20:04:23 +0000 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <3A007746.E656E341@netwood.net> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <39FDE9E4.35F615A6@netwood.net> <39FE461D.275F1363@ix.netcom.com> <8tmt7o$vbj$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <39FEFBF8.D62508B8@netwood.net> <39FF8255.20ACC687@acm.org> <3A006EB1.BA1B841F@averstar.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com Xref: supernews.google.com comp.lang.ada:1692 Date: 2000-11-01T20:04:23+00:00 List-Id: Tucker Taft wrote: > Ken Garlington wrote: > > > Actually, as the person who started this thread, > > I was talking about marketing. > > It just seems odd to make choices > > that damage your historical customer base (military) > > before you've adequately captured your new base (non-military). > > I think we are interested in appealing to military customers. > If you have recommendations of the best way to do so, please fire away. > I honestly had the sense that broadcasting military success stories > was actually counterproductive in some circles, > including some military circles. I'm not sure what choices Ken Garlington is talking about. I'm not sure that it is counterproductive to "broadcast" military success stories. But I do have a very strong impression that the military is far more interested in commercial successes that can be used in military applications. I worked on the Vector, Signal and Image Processing Library (VSIPL) Application Programmer's Interface (API) standard http://www.vsipl.org/ for a while. Originally, I expected that there would be a great deal of interest in an Ada language binding for the VSIPL API standard but almost no one -- including the participants from DARPA and the U.S. Navy -- was interested. They weren't (and still aren't) even particularly concerned about a C++ language binding for the VSIPL API standard. The ANSI C language binding is the only one which has been specified so far. The reason is that, until recently, only ANSI C compilers were available for embedded Digital Signal Processing chips which are likely targets for a standard VSIPL implementation. There are now very good C++ compilers for high end DSP chips so I expect that the VSIPL Forum will, eventually, specify a C++ language binding for the VSIPL API standard. There are still almost no really good Ada compilers for any embedded DSP chips so I don't expect movement on an Ada language binding for the VSIPL API standard any time in the near future.