From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,253505146ffff940 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: Charles Hixson Subject: Re: The greatest feature of the language is .... Date: 2000/10/23 Message-ID: <39F478E2.7CB4B534@earthlink.net>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 684892901 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <1783411C46BCD21182E20008C7EAA09201A1521E@coeis01nok> <39E3BB29.93C4BFB9@ix.netcom.com> X-Accept-Language: en Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net 972323055 198.94.156.19 (Mon, 23 Oct 2000 10:44:15 PDT) Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net MIME-Version: 1.0 NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 10:44:15 PDT Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 2000-10-23T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Lao Xiao Hai wrote: > Pat Rogers wrote: > > > I've received a number of adverts from Bertrand Meyer's company > > offering courses in .NET and associated technology. Apparently he's > > gotten Eiffel into the mainstream of Microsoft's plans (not as their > > primary language of course, but as one of many available). Anybody > > know more about how this works, and how Ada could fit in? > > Excellent question, Pat. I discussed this with an ACT attendee at the > last TOOLS USA conference. As you know, Bertrand is a friend of > mine and I am active in TOOLS conferences. > > Bertrand met Bill Gates at one of the .NET meetings. Gates knew almost > nothing about Eiffel. After Bertrand described it to him, he was > impressed > and it did not take long for Eiffel to become part of the .NET initiative. > ... > Richard Yes. Eiffel has "joined" the .NET. but it is sufficiently different from "standard Eiffel" that Bertrand has named it Eiffel*. E.g., multiple inheritance is used in practically all of the core classes of the Eiffel library, but it has been removed from Eiffel*. I'm sure this will have interesting results. I'm not sure that what results will be Eiffel. If you want to take part in the .NET program, I think you had best be prepared to renounce your official standards. At least that was the Eiffel experience. It has been announced that these features now being removed will be added back in again later, when the current implementation problems are solved. Well, ok. I suppose that a subset implementation is quite legitimate. But be prepared for both extensions and subtractions being required. Remember, if you want to play his game, then "He who has the gold makes the rules". -- (c) Charles Hixson -- Addition of advertisements or hyperlinks to products specifically prohibited