From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,5f8432149982f35e X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: fca1b,5f8432149982f35e X-Google-Attributes: gidfca1b,public From: Igor Kovalenko Subject: Re: Ada and QNX Date: 2000/10/16 Message-ID: <39EB42B1.A14BDCB6@motorola.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 682158309 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <8r1i82$ri3$1@kujawiak.man.lodz.pl> <8r5pe5$h70$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <8FCDFD7EEnopenopena@63.209.170.206> <39EA6305.CD5CFE1F@ix.netcom.com> <39EA9161.6469DDE2@home.com> <8sf9p0$kpg$1@nnrp1.deja.com> X-Accept-Language: ru,en Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: postmaster@mot.com X-Trace: schbbs.mot.com 971719205 11286 145.1.195.34 (16 Oct 2000 18:00:05 GMT) Organization: Motorola iDEN Mime-Version: 1.0 NNTP-Posting-Date: 16 Oct 2000 18:00:05 GMT Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.os.qnx Date: 2000-10-16T18:00:05+00:00 List-Id: mjsilva@my-deja.com wrote: > > In article <39EA9161.6469DDE2@home.com>, > Igor Kovalenko wrote: > > Oh, yeah. I bought Ada book some years ago. So many capabilities. > Couple > > hundred pages worth of docs printed in small-font. > > You bought -a- book!? You don't state that you've used Ada, or even > that you know it, but only that you bought -a- book. And some years > ago at that -- maybe it didn't even cover the current standard (Ada 95 > vs. Ada 83). > Sure, I bought a book simply to have it collect some dust. That's very reasonable assumption given that such fat books are usually rather expensive. > Since when does one need to know "the whole damn thing" to use any > programming language or other complex tool? > Since the time it became obvious that if you don't want the whole Ada you might as well go with C/C++. > > Ada is way too high and abstract to be good for system level > programming > > What low-level system-programming functionality is missing in Ada? In > fact Ada has more low-level functionality than C or C++. It was, after > all, originally designed for -embedded- applications. > I did not say anything is missing. I said that it is 'too high' which should mean there is just too much stuff to bear along with what you really need in most cases. Note that strictly speaking I never said Ada is wrong thing in general, I just stated that it is not good for my personal taste. My original intention was not to denounce Ada, but to say that pissing on C++ does not do any good for Ada. I see, nobody seems to want to continue the wedding analogy, but many are happy to let off some steam on me no matter how many disclaimers I put. I guess it was mistake to give you guys such an easy target :) - Igor