Marin David Condic wrote: > ... > O.K. Like I said - MSVC++ isn't perfect. My experience was very painless. Of course one > of the other guys was here to lean over my shoulder and explain stuff to me, so that > always helps > ... > > "Giving money and power to Government is like giving whiskey > and car keys to teenage boys." > > -- P. J. O'Rourke > ====================================================================== It sure does help! I suspect that starting with version 6 may help also. I sprang for version ... 3 I think it was. I found it appalling. And virtually unusable. I really believed after using that beast that MS is making a strong effort to force everyone into Visual Basic. (Since I now do a lot of Access work, I guess they were successful with me, but I sure don't love them for it!) I wish I could use Ada at work, but screen painting and printing reports are so important that Ada would be a bad choice. But I sure keep looking for a different one than what I'm currently stuck with! -- (c) Charles Hixson -- Addition of advertisements or hyperlinks to products specifically prohibited