From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,4c180623018a88ff X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: Jerry Petrey Subject: Re: Jobs at Lockheed Martin Date: 2000/10/02 Message-ID: <39D8AAD2.12CAA078@west.raytheon.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 676660688 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <39D35D4B.827BE795@worldnet.att.net> <39D36ED9.82FB5D14@lmco.com> <8r37q9$o4u$1@nnrp1.deja.com> X-Accept-Language: en Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: news@ext.ray.com X-Trace: bos-service2.ext.raytheon.com 970500819 138.126.254.210 (Mon, 02 Oct 2000 11:33:39 EDT) Organization: Raytheon Company MIME-Version: 1.0 NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 11:33:39 EDT Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 2000-10-02T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Ted Dennison wrote: > > In article <39D36ED9.82FB5D14@lmco.com>, > William Dale wrote: > > Not sure where you are located but there is no interest in Ada at LM > > Mussels and Space, Sunnyvale. THAAD is converting all of its Missile > > Ada code to C++. I work on the only piece of new Ada being done > > here. > > Hmmm. A classic sign of stupid management. The nice thing about Ada > projects is that idiot managers don't like them, so you don't work under > as many of them. :-) > > I was in a similar situation in a (thankfully small) group in Orlando a > few years back. They actually had an entire *new* working commercial > engine controller done in Ada that they converted to C++ on their own > dime. Apparently the manager in charge decided Ada wasn't fashionable > enough. Why a customer would care what language their COTS engine > controler was written in (as long as it performs to spec) was never > explained. > > I was actually present in the lab (working on my Ada project) when a > customer from India was being shown around. When the customer was told > about the porting effort, he incrediously asked why we would want to do > such a thing. The answer the manager gave him was, "that's what our > customers want." (told *to* a customer). I had to bite my lip so hard it > bled. :-) > > Of course that particular manager was notoriously incompetent. The > employees would actually take *turns* working for him, as no one could > stand him for more than a few months. I content myself by thinking that > if he wasn't ruining our business he might be off piloting a supertanker > somewhere. :-) > > -- > T.E.D. > > http://www.telepath.com/~dennison/Ted/TED.html > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy. I worked on that project with T.E.D. (in fact I had an article in "Embedded Systems Programming" about it) before it was converted to C++. T.E.D. is right about the management. It was amazing they chose Ada in the first place. I remember once when the built in test that I wrote kept showing an error with the EEPROM, they insisted I comment it out so the customer would not see it. Later the CPU board maker contacted us to say we had a board with a bad EEPROM (part of a batch of bad ones they got from their supplier). Where so many managers like this come from I'll never know. Jerry -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Jerry Petrey -- Senior Principal Systems Engineer - Member Team Ada & Team Forth -- Raytheon Missile Systems -- NOTE: please remove NOSPAM in email address to reply -----------------------------------------------------------------------------