From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,cfbb90c56a313e70 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 10261c,cfbb90c56a313e70 X-Google-Attributes: gid10261c,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2000-09-27 18:11:09 PST Path: supernews.google.com!sn-xit-02!supernews.com!bignews.mediaways.net!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!colt.net!newspeer.clara.net!news.clara.net!news.vas-net.net!server2.netnews.ja.net!newshost.central.susx.ac.uk!news.bton.ac.uk!not-for-mail From: John English Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.pascal.misc Subject: Re: From extended Pascals to Ada 95 guide Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 00:03:52 +0100 Organization: University of Brighton Message-ID: <39D27CD8.473259B@brighton.ac.uk> References: <8o3s2a$9ph$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <8o4bfq$v0h$1@slb7.atl.mindspring.net> <8obv01$7hu1@news.cis.okstate.edu> <39A991F3.A8D8BED7@easystreet.com> <8ofh6j$2anb@drn.newsguy.com> <39B59223.667C085D@brighton.ac.uk> <39B932E7.90927D13@ebox.tninet.se> <39BCD7AF.50DD8148@brighton.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: dialin-b8.bton.ac.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: saturn.bton.ac.uk 970095546 14747 194.81.199.188 (27 Sep 2000 22:59:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@bton.ac.uk NNTP-Posting-Date: 27 Sep 2000 22:59:06 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf Xref: supernews.google.com comp.lang.ada:833 comp.lang.pascal.misc:425 Date: 2000-09-27T22:59:06+00:00 List-Id: Ehud Lamm wrote: > On Mon, 11 Sep 2000, John English wrote: > |Stefan Skoglund wrote: > |> > |> note also that you need to imprint real early on a small taste > |> of OOP. > | > |Indeed. > > I am really not sure about this. > Sometimes good intentions lead to bad results... Indeed, exposure to OO > concepts is important, however in my experiense those who learned Java > first have huge problems with simple imperative notions like loops and > structured programing (i.e., breaking code into routines). At Brighton, we teach Ada in the first year and Java in the second year for exactly this reason... ;-) ----------------------------------------------------------------- John English | mailto:je@brighton.ac.uk Senior Lecturer | http://www.comp.it.bton.ac.uk/je Dept. of Computing | ** NON-PROFIT CD FOR CS STUDENTS ** University of Brighton | -- see http://burks.bton.ac.uk -----------------------------------------------------------------