From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10261c,cfbb90c56a313e70 X-Google-Attributes: gid10261c,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,cfbb90c56a313e70 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: "Marin D. Condic" Subject: Re: From extended Pascals to Ada 95 guide Date: 2000/08/26 Message-ID: <39A7C4B7.E6D655C1@acm.org>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 662711630 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <8o3s2a$9ph$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <8o4bfq$v0h$1@slb7.atl.mindspring.net> <39A655BE.18E89020@maths.unine.ch> <4Oxp5.428$Ze5.13712@nnrp3.sbc.net> <39A6B3FF.73538A0E@acm.org> <2IBp5.1573$OE.204952@paloalto-snr1.gtei.net> Organization: Quadrus Corporation X-Accept-Language: en X-Sender: "Marin D. Condic" <@mail.mindspring.com> (Unverified) X-Server-Date: 26 Aug 2000 13:23:33 GMT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.pascal.misc Date: 2000-08-26T13:23:33+00:00 List-Id: Larry Elmore wrote: > > I haven't used MS Visual C++ much (just worked my way through the tutorial > apps), and I haven't used Delphi since ver.2, but I thought Delphi was a > much better environment to work in than MFC, and I liked Object Pascal a lot > better than I've ever liked C++. That said, I just wish Delphi used Ada 95 > instead of Object Pascal. _That_ would've been the best of all possible > worlds and I'd almost certainly still be using it today. > I'm afraid I've never used Delphi, so I can't compare. I have been building up experience with MSVC++ for some time now and, while I still find the Win32api (and hence the MFC built on top of it) to be "Organically Grown" rather than designed, I can find reasons to like it. If you know the MFC, you get a lot of work done for you right there. Using the MSVC++ development environment wizards to get the core of an app built is also a lot of leverage. I like the organization of the various packages into "Classes" where you can easily see the pieces. (I'd like to see an editor for Ada that let you do the same - without imposing this as mandatory, mind you!) The debugging facilities are very impressive and very dynamic - allowing code to be modified on the fly, etc. Naturally, because its C++, you really *need* the debugger to be great! :-) Maybe Delphi is better, but I wouldn't know. What features/capabilities does it have that you think makes it superior? I'll say this: If there was a fully integrated development kit similar to MSVC++ for PC development using Ada, it would be one heck of a competitor. Perhaps something like Claw merged with Adagide and spiffed up to be more feature-rich. I know that the only reason we're using C++ for this development is because any attempt to use Ada would have meant a huge time-to-market lag. All the downside costs of C++ become irrelevant in comparison. MDC -- ====================================================================== Marin David Condic - Quadrus Corporation - http://www.quadruscorp.com/ Send Replies To: m c o n d i c @ q u a d r u s c o r p . c o m Visit my web site at: http://www.mcondic.com/ "Take away the punchbowl just when the party gets going" -- William McChesney Martin, Former Fed chairman, explaining what a sound central bank must always do. ======================================================================