From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fac41,e01bd86884246855 X-Google-Attributes: gidfac41,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,fb1663c3ca80b502 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: David Gillon Subject: Re: Interresting thread in comp.lang.eiffel Date: 2000/07/24 Message-ID: <397C2A05.D62F95A2@baesystems.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 650082433 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <8ipvnj$inc$1@wanadoo.fr> <8j67p8$afd$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <395886DA.CCE008D2@deepthought.com.au> <3958B07B.18A5BB8C@acm.com> <395A0ECA.940560D1@acm.com> <8jd4bb$na7$1@toralf.uib.no> <8jfabb$1d8$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <8jt4i0$18ec7$1@ID-9852.news.cis.dfn.de> <8k5a31$1p61t$1@ID-9852.news.cis.dfn.de> <3966D7B0.5D6475E4@earthlink.net> <396CA5AD.EE955F7A@earthlink.net> <397A5CB4.AF5F6B8A@earthlink.net> X-Accept-Language: en Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: 24 Jul 2000 12:32:46 GMT, rc3284.rochstr.gmav.gecm.com Organization: BAE SYSTEMS Avionics (Rochester) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.eiffel Date: 2000-07-24T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: "Robert I. Eachus" wrote: > > The gains changed abruptly when the aircraft transitioned from > > takeoff-and-landing to up-and-away mode. This produced a sudden transient, > > triggering the start of the PIO. The transition now occurs more gradually. > > That fixes the primary cause, but not the actual failure mode. Does > the stick now > have tactile feedback? Or has the rate limit on the stabilator been > changed? (Yes, > avoiding sudden non-pilot-induced control inputs is a very good thing. > But tactile > feedback, such as stick shakers for stall warnings have the great > advantage of > focusing the pilot on where the action is needed. Tactile feedback from the stick isn't the problem here, it's the rate at which the feedback loop functions. Even without the stick moving the pilot is getting sensory feedback from his inner ear and visual cues. However by the time he's responded the aircraft is already into the wrong part of the cycle and his actions exacerbate the situation. You need to change the control laws, not the pilot/aircraft interface. -- David Gillon