From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fac41,e01bd86884246855 X-Google-Attributes: gidfac41,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,fb1663c3ca80b502 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: David Gillon Subject: Re: Interresting thread in comp.lang.eiffel Date: 2000/07/19 Message-ID: <3975D959.52679BA2@baesystems.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 648258220 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <8ipvnj$inc$1@wanadoo.fr> <8j67p8$afd$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <395886DA.CCE008D2@deepthought.com.au> <3958B07B.18A5BB8C@acm.com> <395A0ECA.940560D1@acm.com> <8jd4bb$na7$1@toralf.uib.no> <8jfabb$1d8$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <8jhq0m$30u5$1@toralf.uib.no> <8jt4j7$19hpk$1@ID-9852.news.cis.dfn.de> <3963CDDE.3E8FB644@earthlink.net> <3963DEBF.79C40BF1@eiffel.com> <2LS85.6100$7%3.493920@news.flash.net> <8k5aru$1odtq$1@ID-9852.news.cis.dfn.de> <8k8pk2$20cab$1@ID-9852.news.cis.dfn.de> <_dS95.9945$7%3.666180@news.flash.net> <396C9C7F.D9B20E5F@baesystems.com> X-Accept-Language: en Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: 19 Jul 2000 17:35:03 GMT, rc3284.rochstr.gmav.gecm.com Organization: BAE SYSTEMS Avionics (Rochester) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.eiffel Date: 2000-07-19T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Veli-Pekka Nousiainen wrote: > > what was wanted. Think Dilbert 1 trying to have a technical discussion > > with Dilbert 2 by passing verbal messages through ten layers of pointy > > haired bosses each.... The assumption that this would logically result > > The software inheritance layers are not what you were talking about?! Well yes, that's the fundamental issue, but there's so much noise* in the communications channels of big multi-national, multi-company, multi-system projects that the assumption that the need for some information to do the job will automatically result in a timely and crystal clear exchange of information between engineers is hopelessly naive. * 'noise' in this case could be legal constraints, security constraints, institutional inertia, liability issues, IPR issues, cross-cultural misunderstandings, cross-corporate-cultural misunderstandings, arguments over who pays for the time, etc, etc, etc.... -- David Gillon