From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,63ceef1cf4561e32 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: "Stanley R. Allen" Subject: Re: Customer balks at Ada -- any hope? Date: 2000/07/18 Message-ID: <3974D0B3.1DEBD825@raytheon.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 647953542 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <8l01s4$gnr$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <39748F35.72CBC45A@averstar.com> <39749211.1A6ADC0A@raytheon.com> <39749DA3.CC4471DD@computermotion.com> X-Accept-Language: en Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Organization: NASA, Kennedy Space Center Mime-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 2000-07-18T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Rennie Allen wrote: > > "Stanley R. Allen" wrote: > > > > This is a positive factor in some project manager's minds concerning > > the long-term maintenance issues. > > Dude ! Where do you find these managers (i.e. the ones with minds :). They > must have skipped the (usually required) lobotomy phase of management school. > > I have never encountered a "manager" that was either bright enough to realize a > long term benefit, or ethical enough to implement something that makes their > budgeting look bad (high upfront costs), and someone else's look good (lower > long-term costs - once the original manager has "moved up" - as management types > like to do). Many management types I have encountered, derive extreme > satisfaction from pointing out the maintenance cost over-runs associated with > projects that they initiated, but some recently > lobotomized^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H recruited lower management type is now > responsible for. > Ok, Ok, I said *some* project managers. Specifically, I'm thinking of some in my plant who perhaps are more software-savvy than many. I've had some bean-counters turned 'managers' around here who don't know Java from Japan, but at least a couple (surprise, surprise) used to be programmers. The head of my department used to teach Ada at the local university. Another supervisor was a member of the Posix/Ada mapping review group. Another likes to get his hands dirty with GNAT/Linux in his spare time. Heck, one day even *you* might become a manager, like some other people that read this group regularly. -- Stanley Allen mailto:Stanley_R_Allen-NR@raytheon.com