From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,54c513170bafd693 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: "Tarjei Tj�stheim Jensen" Subject: Re: Desirability of C++ Date: 2000/05/01 Message-ID: <390D47A3.740E3FD1@online.no>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 617779506 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <01HW.B4BFC2820005B06B08A24140@news.pacbell.net> <20000204073443.24976.00001288@ng-ci1.aol.com> <87euk0$c93$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <01HW.B4C1346100072D2408A24140@news.pacbell.net> <949867976.281549@the-rowan.albatross.co.nz> <8766v93w66.fsf@deneb.cygnus.argh.org> <38E8C81A.AA62CF4C@HiWAAY.net> <7EA1B852F5D4D8C6.26EEE9181C80F0DF.0161EA2D9C353253@lp.airnews.net> <01HW.B51C1B6E00F41C2D04BB51B0@news.pacbell.net> <38F796B2.A99A206A@ftw.rsc.raytheon.com> <38F7A27A.4F7729FA@raytheon.com> <8eclae$afj$1@slb7.atl.mindspring.net> <4F706057FEE2A550.BF5FE19AE279EFCD.A55706B3F9D07043@lp.airnews.net> <8eiv08$820$1@slb1.atl.mindspring.net> <390D001C.7433140B@netwood.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: news-abuse@online.no X-Trace: news1.online.no 957171614 130.67.235.163 (Mon, 01 May 2000 11:00:14 MET DST) Organization: Jensen programvareutvikling MIME-Version: 1.0 NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 11:00:14 MET DST Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 2000-05-01T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: E. Robert Tisdale wrote: > > Richard D Riehle wrote: > > > [snip] > > > > Anyone who chooses C++ over Ada > > for a safety-critical DoD software system either > > 1) does not understand C++, > > 2) does not understand Ada, > > 3) does not understand either or > > 4) has an agenda based on criteria other than > > the relative merits of the technologies. > > Still, the fact is that Ada has been on life support from the start. > It doesn't seem to have much of a future. > Fewer people are learning and using Ada > so it is harder to justify investment in really good > optimizing Ada compilers. Consequently, > you can hardly blame frustrated programmers > for abandoning Ada in favor of C++. That is not true. More people know how to program in Ada this year than last year. Because a lot of people learn Ada as their first programming language (thanks to gnat). Even here in Norway it is moving in that direction. And in the (norwegian) programming groups there seem to be a concensus that pascal like programming languages are far better than C languages, at least when one tries to learn to program. There seem to be quite a few who use Ada to create interesting software. And these people who knows Ada have something that almost nobody else has; they know that it takes a lot more time to get a C++ program out the door than a similar Ada program. The last estimate I saw was from someone who estimated that he spent two to four times as much time to debug his C++ code than his Ada code (it was a project which had half of each). Greetings,