From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,54c513170bafd693 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: "E. Robert Tisdale" Subject: Re: Desirability of C++ Date: 2000/05/01 Message-ID: <390D1C01.D959A7E2@netwood.net>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 617757611 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <01HW.B4BFC2820005B06B08A24140@news.pacbell.net> <20000204073443.24976.00001288@ng-ci1.aol.com> <87euk0$c93$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <01HW.B4C1346100072D2408A24140@news.pacbell.net> <949867976.281549@the-rowan.albatross.co.nz> <8766v93w66.fsf@deneb.cygnus.argh.org> <38E8C81A.AA62CF4C@HiWAAY.net> <7EA1B852F5D4D8C6.26EEE9181C80F0DF.0161EA2D9C353253@lp.airnews.net> <01HW.B51C1B6E00F41C2D04BB51B0@news.pacbell.net> <38F796B2.A99A206A@ftw.rsc.raytheon.com> <38F7A27A.4F7729FA@raytheon.com> <8eclae$afj$1@slb7.atl.mindspring.net> <4F706057FEE2A550.BF5FE19AE279EFCD.A55706B3F9D07043@lp.airnews.net> <8eiv08$820$1@slb1.atl.mindspring.net> <390D001C.7433140B@netwood.net> X-Accept-Language: en Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 2000-05-01T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Keith Thompson wrote: > I don't believe C++ can be made significantly more robust > without breaking backward compatibility, > either with the current version of C++ or with C. > (C++'s near backward compatibility with C > is one of its biggest selling points.) > It would be possible to add new features > that make it easier to write safe code, > but any change that breaks existing (unsafe) code > would be politically impossible. > > It would be possible to create a new language > with Ada's robustness that looks more like C and/or C++. > (Java might be a step in that direction, > but I don't know it well enough to judge that.) I think that the next evolutionary step for C++ will break backward compatibility. The new C9X (C99?) standard is incompatible with C++ so there is already incentive for C and C++ to diverge. I don't think that Java is a good model for a more robust C++ (Ada++?). Garbage collection is incompatible with real time programming.