From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,LOTS_OF_MONEY autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fec54,d78446895d1cb3b0 X-Google-Attributes: gidfec54,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,d78446895d1cb3b0 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 10ab2c,28f46de42acbd47 X-Google-Attributes: gid10ab2c,public X-Google-Thread: 108abf,670aa2795fbf5078 X-Google-Attributes: gid108abf,public From: David Castrodale Subject: Re: Boeing Begins Flight Testing F-22 Block 3S Avionics Date: 2000/04/29 Message-ID: <390B24EC.DA16AD3C@home.com> X-Deja-AN: 617244491 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <1JHN4.122$wb7.9308@news.flash.net> <39074a04_3@news4.newsfeeds.com> <17IN4.169$wb7.9885@news.flash.net> <390768F4.9FCE513@home.com> <8e7vio$28f$10@blackhelicopter.databasix.com> <8e8c15$ai3$2@ljutefisk.databasix.com> <8e9eh9$fsj$14@ljutefisk.databasix.com> <9K4O4.919$wb7.88787@news.flash.net> <390A06C3.1862D7AB@home.com> <8eemce$jmh$6@shpxurnq.databasix.com> X-Accept-Language: en Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: abuse@home.net X-Trace: news1.rdc2.on.home.com 957031857 24.69.159.103 (Sat, 29 Apr 2000 11:10:57 PDT) Organization: lost hands anonymous MIME-Version: 1.0 NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 11:10:57 PDT Newsgroups: rec.aviation.military,comp.lang.ada,alt.non.sequitur,alt.music.joe-carta-band Date: 2000-04-29T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Axel wrote: > > David Castrodale proves the law of fives: > > > > > > >Beekeeper wrote: > >> > >> On Thu, 27 Apr 2000 22:32:33 -0400, hoKEy wOLf wrote: > >> > >> >In article <9K4O4.919$wb7.88787@news.flash.net>, "Ken Garlington" > >> > wrote: > >> > > >> >> "hoKEy wOLf" wrote in message > >> >> news:yep-7663B5.19194027042000@allnews.infi.net... > >> >> > In article <8e9eh9$fsj$14@ljutefisk.databasix.com>, David Kim > >> >> > wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> > > "counterpoint: jim carleton" > >> >> > > finally > >> >> > > loses it: > >> >> > > > >> >> > > >This, from Axel: > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > >>David Castrodale proves the law of fives: > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >>> > >> >> > > >>> > >> >> > > >>>Ken Garlington wrote: > >> >> > > >>>> > >> >> > > >>>> "Tarver Engineering" wrote in message > >> >> > > >>>> news:39074a04_3@news4.newsfeeds.com... > >> >> > > >>>> > > >> >> > > >>>> > >> >> > > >>>> > > Ah, now I see what's been confusing you! > >> >> > > >>>> > > >> >> > > >>>> > I am not in the least confused Ken and in fact it is yourself > >> >> that > >> >> > > >>>> > has had > >> >> > > >>>> > to make major modifications to your original statements to > >> >> > > >>>> > maintain any > >> >> > > >>>> kind > >> >> > > >>>> > of credibility. > >> >> > > >>>> > >> >> > > >>>> a) Cite "major modifications"? (I know, it's a waste of > >> >> > > >>>> bandwidth > >> >> to > >> >> > > >>>> ask for > >> >> > > >>>> justification from a tarver generator -- sort of like asking a > >> >> > > >>>> fart > >> >> > > >>>> why it > >> >> > > >>>> smells -- but I always feel obliged to make the point...) > >> >> > > >>>> > >> >> > > >>>> b) If you're not confused, then I assume the strange claim that > >> >> > > >>>> there's a > >> >> > > >>>> sudden 5+ month slip in the F-22 schedule was just a tarver. > >> >> > > >>>> I'll > >> >> > > >>>> give you a > >> >> > > >>>> double-tarver if you make it a 10+ month slip based on some > >> >> > > >>>> random > >> >> > > >>>> words in > >> >> > > >>>> this post. > >> >> > > >>>> > >> >> > > >>>> > > The designation "4004" refers to an _airframe_. Block 3S > >> >> > > >>>> > > refers > >> >> > > >>>> > > to a > >> >> > > >>>> > > _software configuration_. Although not all software > >> >> > > >>>> > > configurations are > >> >> > > >>>> > > compatible with all airframes, there is not a one-to-one > >> >> > > >>>> > > correspondence. > >> >> > > >>>> > > >> >> > > >>>> > So in fact the software suite fails the first test of Ada > >> >> > > >>>> transportability. > >> >> > > >>>> > >> >> > > >>>> Actually, no. Aircraft 4001-4003 do not have a CIP (Common > >> >> > > >>>> Integrated > >> >> > > >>>> Processor) installed, nor do they have all of the sensors that > >> >> > > >>>> are > >> >> > > >>>> installed > >> >> > > >>>> in the later aircraft. Ada's good, but no software language can > >> >> > > >>>> compensate > >> >> > > >>>> for missing hardware. In other words, if you select the "print" > >> >> > > >>>> function in > >> >> > > >>>> your favorite software package, and you have no printer, only a > >> >> > > >>>> crazy person > >> >> > > >>>> (Q.E.D.) would complain about the software. > >> >> > > >>>> > >> >> > > >>>> > Why thank you Mr. Garlington for helping those of us at ram > >> >> > > >>>> > understand > >> >> > > >>>> > Software, > >> >> > > >>>> > >> >> > > >>>> You're quite Welcome. I know that some people have difficulty > >> >> > > >>>> using > >> >> > > >>>> the > >> >> > > >>>> Internet (e.g., being unable to locate references on the Wall > >> >> Street > >> >> > > >>>> Journal > >> >> > > >>>> website), but there's certainly no reason to be embarrassed > >> >> > > >>>> about > >> >> > > >>>> it. Glad > >> >> > > >>>> to clear up any confusion about the distinction between 4001 > >> >> > > >>>> (scheduled to > >> >> > > >>>> be delivered in May) and Block 3.0 software (scheduled to be > >> >> > > >>>> delivered at > >> >> > > >>>> the end of October). > >> >> > > >>>> > >> >> > > >>>> > > You may find it helpful to read the Delaney reference > >> >> previously > >> >> > > >>>> provided: > >> >> > > >>>> > > >> >> > > >>>> > > >> >> > > >>>> > > >> >> > > >>>> > > * "Block 3S, is currently in testing at the AIL and > >> >> > > >>>> > > initiates > >> >> > > >>>> > > the sensor > >> >> > > >>>> > > fusion and sensor tasking key to the F-22 performance." > >> >> > > >>>> > > > >> >> > > >>>> > > * "Block 3.0 software... will provide the full sensor fusion > >> >> and > >> >> > > >>>> > > weapons > >> >> > > >>>> > > integration for the F-22." > >> >> > > >>>> > > >> >> > > >>>> > John > >> >> > > >>>> > > >> >> > > >>>> > > >> >> > > >>>> >> >> > > >>>> the > >> >> > > >>>> bridge> > >> >> > > >>>> > >> >> > > >>>> (Cross-posted to alt.non.sequitur and comp.lang.ada, since both > >> >> seem > >> >> > > >>>> to now > >> >> > > >>>> be relevant.) > >> >> > > >>> > >> >> > > >>>you have no idea what you've just gotten yourself into > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >>I'm just a truck-drivin' man. > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > >we here at comp.lang.ada are a little weird, if you know what i mean > >> >> > > > >> >> > > I'm going to name my son Gargamel. > >> >> > > >> >> > SEE? > >> >> > >> >> SAW! > >> > > >> >Today, Bullwinkle stands nearly 300 feet above sea level. > >> > >> yep, sounds like you've got kiddum cats. better try moving the yellow pieces > > > >what are you, some sort of demographic? > > Yes, and he reads Tom Clancy novels for a living. i know that guy, he always picks his own lobster at the supermarket and then yells at the people when it's not the right one -- David "this human form where i was born, i now repent." -pixies