From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,54c513170bafd693 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: "Marin D. Condic" Subject: Re: Desirability of C++ Date: 2000/04/14 Message-ID: <38F7DA95.A9E1F5@quadruscorp.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 611332775 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <01HW.B4BFC2820005B06B08A24140@news.pacbell.net> <20000204073443.24976.00001288@ng-ci1.aol.com> <87euk0$c93$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <01HW.B4C1346100072D2408A24140@news.pacbell.net> <949867976.281549@the-rowan.albatross.co.nz> <8766v93w66.fsf@deneb.cygnus.argh.org> <38E8C81A.AA62CF4C@HiWAAY.net> <7EA1B852F5D4D8C6.26EEE9181C80F0DF.0161EA2D9C353253@lp.airnews.net> <01HW.B51C1B6E00F41C2D04BB51B0@news.pacbell.net> <38F796B2.A99A206A@ftw.rsc.raytheon.com> <38F7A27A.4F7729FA@raytheon.com> Organization: Quadrus Corporation X-Sender: "Marin D. Condic" (Unverified) X-Server-Date: 14 Apr 2000 23:58:49 GMT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 2000-04-14T23:58:49+00:00 List-Id: Stanley R. Allen wrote: > We should seriously question the assumption that it is easier to > hire C++ vs. Ada programmers. The entire Information Technology > industry is facing severe hiring problems, so the shortage of > Ada programmers is at least in part a reflection of the more > general situation. > I don't know about hiring C++ programmers from experience. I know there is a general shortage of good technical people, so C++ programmers must be hard to get too. I *do* know that finding qualified Ada programmers can be very difficult. I'm still looking for some in different locations and I'm not being battered by resumes. I also know from experience that when talking to meatware companies (from either the perspective of a job seeker or the potential employer) you get the reaction: "Ada? What's that?" (I might have just as well said "Jovial" or "Spitbol" or "Befunge".) It may not be that Ada jobs are harder to fill than C++ jobs, but there is at least a bigger pool of people who at least know what C++ is. (If you post qualifications "C++, MFC, Windows", at least people recognize what that is!) Perceptually speaking, that means managers will *think* they have a better chance of getting C++ personnel. Just bid the salaries up & steal them from somewhere else. I wish it were otherwise, but it would help Ada to hit a "critical mass" of developers that would make it a player on an equal footing with C++ and Java. MDC -- ====================================================================== Marin David Condic - Quadrus Corporation - http://www.quadruscorp.com/ Send Replies To: m c o n d i c @ q u a d r u s c o r p . c o m Visit my web site at: http://www.mcondic.com/ "I'd trade it all for just a little more" -- Charles Montgomery Burns, [4F10] ======================================================================