From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,557136a92a6a20c7 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: Charles Hixson Subject: Re: Do you do ASIS? Date: 2000/03/08 Message-ID: <38C6D176.9A7AB6C7@earthlink.net>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 594897304 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <89ot3v$og9$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <8a6f9c$5tt$1@nnrp1.deja.com> X-Accept-Language: en Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net 952553853 198.94.156.19 (Wed, 08 Mar 2000 14:17:33 PST) Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net MIME-Version: 1.0 NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 14:17:33 PST Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 2000-03-08T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: OK. Here's my wish-list (apologies if I misunderstand glade). In most of these I will be thinking of Win95 systems, since that is what most of the applications that I build will probably end up on. (Win3.1 support would be nice, but lets be reasonable :-) 1) It should be able to be used in the generation of stand-alone programs that do not require a separate library to have been previously installed in the computer. (My main quarrel with gtk is that it requires that gtk have been previously installed ... and sometimes I don't have the luxury to specify that.) 2) It should have a small footprint. (Partial contradiction of 1, sorry about that. Both hold.) 3) It should be reducible to a text screen if necessary. (The comment earlier about: If worst comes to worst, just declare an 80x23 array of characters ... [etc.]) 4) It should be "embeddable" into fancier forms for use when they are available. (An example of this would be something that would take one parameter that matches the built GUI and another that matches some add-on (say, a sprite that dances around the cursor, or drop-shadows around every menu box, or...) and result in "something" (code?, object referenced?) that can be used to draw the fancier form. (It would be nice if the file format was accommodating enough that these could be stacked with several layers of upgraded being sandwiched together.) 5) It should be a layered protocol, with many optional annexes, so that no more than is needed has to be included with the compiled program. Of course the simple parts of this can be handled by the Ansi.sys package with the ?Feldman? screen drawing extensions. And the fancy parts can be handled by Glade. But from my position of ignorance it doesn't appear that there is any smooth transition between the two positions. (Does Win2K come with GTK installed? If so, then as the decade passes most of this will become increasingly less relevant. But since there are still Win3.1 machines, it may be awhile before I can count on GTK being pre-installed.) Robert Dewar wrote: > In article , > "William J. Thomas" wrote: > > Team up with someone who will create a dynamite GUI builder > > for Gnat, (I mean a good one) and you could pave the way for a > > great environment !!! > > Everyone can agree that they want a "good" GUI builder (it would > be hard to disagree, but stating this without details is not > much help). It would be constructive for example to explain > what you would like to see that is not provided by GLADE, the > GUI builder associated with GtkAda. > > Robert Dewar > Ada Core Technologies > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.