From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,4509214aa8b1885b X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: Rush Kester Subject: Re: GNAT Support Costs Date: 2000/02/10 Message-ID: <38A2F952.EA970D4E@jhuapl.edu>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 584124640 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <86ikmn$o9o$1@rk-comp.demon.co.uk> <86ssls$aim$1@rk-comp.demon.co.uk> To: Rob Kirkbride X-Accept-Language: en Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: usenet@houston.jhuapl.edu X-Trace: houston.jhuapl.edu 950193952 19039 128.244.45.70 (10 Feb 2000 14:45:52 GMT) Organization: Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Lab, Laurel, MD, USA Mime-Version: 1.0 NNTP-Posting-Date: 10 Feb 2000 14:45:52 GMT Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 2000-02-10T14:45:52+00:00 List-Id: You might want to contact Aonix about ObjectAda. They offer a subscription service with 1 (sometimes 2) updates per year for a very reasonable price, certainly less than ACT support for GNAT. Rush Kester Software Systems Engineer AdaSoft at Johns Hopkins Applied Physics Lab. email: rush.kester@jhuapl.edu phone: (240) 228-3030 (live M-F 9:30am-4:30pm, voicemail anytime) fax: (240) 228-6779 http://hometown.aol.com/rwkester/myhomepage/index.html Rob Kirkbride wrote: > Stephen Leake wrote in message > news:uiu0fl5r6.fsf@gsfc.nasa.gov... > > "Rob Kirkbride" writes: > > > > > Thanks for the replies. I think I will stick with using GNAT because it > does > > > seem to be a very good product. Of course I've been using it regularly > for > > > the last few months and on/off for a couple of years before that and it > > > seems to do everything I need. > > > > > > I just feel its a shame that ACT don't want to deal with that side of > the > > > business. Not exactly encouraging people to use Ada rather than C++ or > > > whatever. The end customer may still opt for the support. If not then I > > > suspect it will be used as a last resort! > > > > This implies that you can get the level of support you are interested > > in for a C++ compiler for less than what ACT charges for Ada. Can you be > > specific about what you can get? > > > > The last I checked, being able to ask questions of Microsoft > > engineers, and get real answers, wasn't even on the price list! MS > > sells "developer subscriptions" or something like that, for about > > $2k/year, but that does _not_ include real question/answer support > > (please tell me I'm wrong?). > > > > Does Borland offer something better? > > > > -- Stephe > > I feel as if some people are missing the point.I agree some people would > like/need all that support. ACT offer services such as helping with > performance, porting from Ada 83 etc. I also don't need help with Ada - I've > been using it for years. > For the project I am on at the moment all that support is just not required. > I would like just to buy a compiler, if I find bugs I would like to be able > to report them. If a fix exists I would like to take that fix. I also don't > need a support infrastructure to support 10 different people. > I agree about Microsoft, oh you've found a bug, if you just buy the next > version its fixed (several other things broken of course). I'm not > suggesting it should be the price of an C++ compiler, just that the support > costs have some sort of sliding scale depending on the number of users and > the support required. As I'm from the UK I know that British Aerospace use > the product, thats great and I sure they find the support and costs fine. > Indeed the support that is offered looks very impressive. > > Of course its still possible the end customer will sting for the cost as > they are interested in the long term future of all the rest of the legacy > code and what they might do in a few years when they want to upgrade the > hardware, but thats not the issue here. > > Rob