From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,e80a1497a689d8a5 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: Nick Roberts Subject: Re: Ada GC (was Re: Ammo-zilla) Date: 1999/11/10 Message-ID: <3829D562.5F102A83@callnetuk.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 547363476 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <38120FAF.945ADD7D@hso.link.com><7uutgd$87h$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <19991024.18033546@db3.max5.com><38189268.43EB150F@mail.earthlink.net><86ogdjtdwz.fsf@ppp-115-70.villette.club-internet.fr><7vadsp$8q61@news.cis.okstate.edu> <1999Oct28.221910.1@eisner><7vb3c4$8a21@news.cis.okstate.edu> <7vhg2n$7ht$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <7vkjea$b34$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <7vncgr$bpg$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <7vqd45$iiq$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <7vvroo$grr$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <80c9fq$2qn$1@nntp4.atl.mindspring.net> X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: da132d162.dialup.callnetuk.com X-Accept-Language: en Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: 11 Nov 1999 15:56:28 GMT, da132d162.dialup.callnetuk.com Organization: Computer Consultant MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 1999-11-10T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Richard D Riehle wrote: > ... > There has been some discussion lately of software as an engineering > practice. It will not be an engineering discipline until we call a > mistake a mistake, forcing personnel to fully accept responsibility for > their errors of omission as well as commission. A programmer calls it > a bug. An engineer calls it a mistake. And, as a corollary, customers need to be educated into rejecting software with a 'bug' in it just as diligently as they would reject any other product with a defect. It would help for our respective governments (UK, US, and elsewhere) to produce some (not too heavy) legislation to assist in this (e.g. outlawing some of the more outrageous evasions of liability in typical software licences). Sadly, however, I think our politicians have undergone a physical adaptation to their habitat (whereby the brain is replaced by an air sac, for the more efficient generation of hot air). -- Nick Roberts Computer Consultant (UK) http://www.callnetuk.com/home/nickroberts http://www.adapower.com/lab/adaos