From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,f51e93dacd9c7fca X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-06-17 02:39:13 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!nycmny1-snh1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!news-out.visi.com!hermes.visi.com!cox.net!newspeer1-gui.server.ntli.net!ntli.net!newsfep1-win.server.ntli.net.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail From: "chris.danx" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada References: <3d0ce154_5@news.bluewin.ch> <3D0D4274.6C5E02F9@acm.org> Subject: Re: status of Ada STL? X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: <37iP8.626$cj4.61533@newsfep1-win.server.ntli.net> Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 10:38:47 +0100 NNTP-Posting-Host: 80.5.140.234 X-Complaints-To: abuse@ntlworld.com X-Trace: newsfep1-win.server.ntli.net 1024306751 80.5.140.234 (Mon, 17 Jun 2002 10:39:11 BST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 10:39:11 BST Organization: ntl Cablemodem News Service Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:26130 Date: 2002-06-17T10:38:47+01:00 List-Id: "Russ" <18k11tm001@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:bebbba07.0206162248.45b6174e@posting.google.com... > Jeffrey Carter wrote in message news:<3D0D4274.6C5E02F9@acm.org>... > > > Certainly ":=" is better than "=" for assignment, and replacing "=" with > > "==" for equality is just stupid. But I've thought for decades that the > > assignment symbol should not contain the "=" character at all. "<-" > > would probably be good. > > Certainly "=" is better than ":=" for assignment, "=" implies stateful, assignment is stateful hence using "=" for stateful transitions is confusing if not wrong (let's not go into C and why it has "=" for assignment, that's done, in the past, over with! The issue here is whether Ada should have "=" for assignment). Try fp for a while and see that "something is something else" is different from saying "something becomes something else". > but if you don't > think so, my proposal WOULD NOT STOP YOU FROM USING :=. LET ME REPEAT: > MY PROPOSAL WOULD NOT STOP YOU FROM USING := FOR ASSINGMENT. > > HELLO? AM I GETTING THROUGH TO ANYONE OUT THERE? NOPE COS' YOU'RE SHOUTING AT EVERYONE AND YOUR PROPOSAL HAS NO BENEFITS TO THE ADA COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE. As I said before the best way to support Ada is to develop software in it, and for it. Adas' biggest problem is ppl moaning that it's not as popular as this language or that language and thinking up ways of making it more popular, instead of getting on with writing software and supporting it in that way. After all the more software you put out there, the more ppl get to see what you can do with Ada and see it's benefits. Chris