From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,ab1d177a5a26577d X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII Path: g2news2.google.com!postnews.google.com!d19g2000yql.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Martin Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: What's wrong with C++? Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 09:31:44 -0800 (PST) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <37ede376-02f6-4064-9049-1bccc70dea87@d19g2000yql.googlegroups.com> References: <1ee1a434-4048-48f6-9f5e-d8126bebb808@r19g2000prm.googlegroups.com> <4d5d3f14$0$13901$882e7ee2@usenet-news.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 86.154.212.189 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1297963905 25260 127.0.0.1 (17 Feb 2011 17:31:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 17:31:45 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: d19g2000yql.googlegroups.com; posting-host=86.154.212.189; posting-account=g4n69woAAACHKbpceNrvOhHWViIbdQ9G User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:2.0b11) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/4.0b11,gzip(gfe) Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:18313 Date: 2011-02-17T09:31:44-08:00 List-Id: On Feb 17, 3:30=A0pm, Hyman Rosen wrote: > On 2/16/2011 10:41 PM, Mike Sieweke wrote: > > > You should read Ian Joyner's critique: > >http://www.zechweb.de/Joyners_cpp_critique/ > > "C++ is bad because it isn't Eiffel." > > > You should also read the C++ FQA (frequently questioned answers) > > by Yossi Kreinin: > >http://www.yosefk.com/c++fqa/index.html > > "C++ is bad because it isn't Java." > > > Do a Google search for "dark side of C++" and you'll find > > even more. =A0This one seems especially interesting: > >http://port70.net/~nsz/16_c++.html > > "C++ is bad because it's C" (OK, not entirely, but I wanted > to keep up the pattern :-) Actually, this last one has: > > =A0 =A0 =A0Paul Graham (2001) > =A0 =A0 =A0[..] Historically, languages designed for other people to > =A0 =A0 =A0use have been bad: Cobol, PL/I, Pascal, Ada, C++. The good > =A0 =A0 =A0languages have been those that were designed for their own > =A0 =A0 =A0creators: C, Perl, Smalltalk, Lisp. [..] Sometimes though there is something better than opinion as to what language produces more reliable systems... ...but I couldn't possibly comment on what language usually comes out better! ;-) -- Martin