From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,fd2f984f8ef238d1,start X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!t13g2000prf.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: usenet@scriptoriumdesigns.com Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Why so hard to come up with a simple embedded Ada system? Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:55:45 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <37da1783-b355-4d43-a9a8-7f0d4ba4da9c@t13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 76.216.160.90 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Trace: posting.google.com 1279083345 5759 127.0.0.1 (14 Jul 2010 04:55:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 04:55:45 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: t13g2000prf.googlegroups.com; posting-host=76.216.160.90; posting-account=H7NWPAoAAABNzgi4DMy1pgNsNq9QU0H_ User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US) AppleWebKit/533.4 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/5.0.375.99 Safari/533.4,gzip(gfe) Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:12411 Date: 2010-07-13T21:55:45-07:00 List-Id: I'll just come out and say it - for a language that was designed for as much for embedded applications as for anything, it seems to be maddeningly difficult to actually get Ada on a modest embedded platform. By modest I mean low-end 32 bits, no MMU. ARM7 or Cortex Mx would be my first choice. I can be up and running on such a platform with C and a tasking library in a day (Rowley Crossworks, nice package). Why can't I do the same with Ada? Or rather, to avoid making this about me, why can't an embedded programmer - student, hobbyist or professional - who's heard about Ada and wants to give it a spin, including hard-realtime concurrency, just do it? If Ada fans (I include myself) want to see Ada get more exposure, this seems like not only a desirable step but a necessary one. I can run C on a thousand such boards, and I can't (AFAIK) run Ada on one. Maybe this is all available, and I just haven't found out where. Then that's a problem too, but I'll be happy to hear about it. All comments welcome.