From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,3e08c98d7ce85399 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: Andy Askey Subject: Re: Kindness Date: 1999/09/03 Message-ID: <37D01A39.F05FF3F4@res.raytheon.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 520855576 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <37CC6844.AB898EEE@rational.com> <1999Sep2.074353.1@eisner> <7qn419$cj4$1@nnrp1.deja.com> X-Accept-Language: en Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: usenet@isn.dac.neu.edu X-Trace: isn.dac.neu.edu 936410453 19228 129.10.1.79 (4 Sep 1999 02:00:53 GMT) Organization: Raytheon Systems Company Mime-Version: 1.0 NNTP-Posting-Date: 4 Sep 1999 02:00:53 GMT Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 1999-09-04T02:00:53+00:00 List-Id: I haven't followed all the posts in this thread, but I just can't help but put in my opinion here. Suppose the poster was a student attempting to get the answer to some assigned question. So what? What is the difference if a student reads the answer in a book, a man page, or from a newsgroup? The goal of the student (and the teacher, I hope) is that the student learns from the homework. One thing I find lacking in the education system of today is that it does not prepare a graduate for the working world. Once a student becomes a member of some Software Engineering department, he/she will loose points for wasting time figuring out something that is available by questioning an experience coworker. Part of the educational process should be to teach how to complete a task in the most efficient manner. No one ever got a promoting rediscovering something that is common knowledge through the industry. But plenty succeed by applying the knowledge of others to develop new ideas. -- --------------------------------------------------- | Andy Askey | | Software Engineer | | Raytheon Systems Company | | 670 Discovery Drive, Huntsville, AL 35806 | | Phone: (256) 971-2367 Fax: (256) 971-2306 | | andrew_j_askey@res.raytheon.com | --------------------------------------------------- Robert Dewar wrote: > > In article <1999Sep2.074353.1@eisner>, > Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam wrote: > > One possible reason would be that the post appeared to be > someone who > > was attempting to do "homework via newsgroups". This annoys > two classes > > of people: > > > > 1) Instructors who expect students to do their own work > > > > 2) Former students who did their own work back in the > > good old days > > > > At least once in this group the instructor who noticed the > > post was actually the instructor who had assigned that problem > > to that student. > > Actually for me this misses the point, sure you may annoy the > above two classes of people, but the important thing is that > you are being very unfair to the student in this case, since > it is very damaging for students to get in the habit of letting > others do their work. They may not realize it at the time, but > later on, they will regret it, and it is not a good idea to be > an accomplice in this sequence of events :-) > > That being said, you can often suggest something that will help > the student help themselves, and then everyone wins. > > Robert De > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Share what you know. Learn what you don't.