From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,INVALID_MSGID, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,3e08c98d7ce85399 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: Marin David Condic Subject: Re: Kindness Date: 1999/09/03 Message-ID: <37CFF7DC.CFF9717C@pwfl.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 520675138 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: condicma@bogon.pwfl.com References: <37CC6844.AB898EEE@rational.com> <37CE93CD.799A225A@pwfl.com> <37CF0FE0.2B299477@acenet.com.au> X-Accept-Language: en Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Organization: Pratt & Whitney Mime-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: e108678@pwflcom Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 1999-09-03T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Geoff Bull wrote: > Marin David Condic wrote: > > > >Things that smell of students trying to get there homework > >done for them generally deserve some sort of "rude" scolding. > > I think you're all being a bit precious. "Precious"??? That doesn't translate well. :-) Makes me think I'm a veritable gold mine of wisdom. > > Getting some help via the net is just another part of > the educational experience. > I guess the traditional way of housebreaking a dog is to catch it when it pees on the carpet, stick its nose in it and swat it with a newspaper while expressing firm displeasure. Maybe we could view peeing on the carpet as just another part of the dog's educational experience. One method produces a housebroken dog. The other method produces an untrained, undomesticated, unmanageable, wild animal - and a house that smells bad. :-) "Help" is one thing. "Do my homework for me" is another thing altogether. > > Lighten up! > Given that we don't have an actual case in front of us, perhaps we are taking it a bit too seriously. But I think that the education of the next generation of people who will be running the world when I retire is a pretty important mission. Letting students think that academic fraud, intellectual dishonesty, theft and other assorted high crimes and misdemeanors are all just "part of the game" and are not "wrong" so long as you can get away with it is probably a bad idea. It breeds the notion that lying and cheating in other areas of life is O.K. - depending on what the definition of "is" is! > > Geoff MDC -- Marin David Condic Real Time & Embedded Systems, Propulsion Systems Analysis United Technologies, Pratt & Whitney, Large Military Engines M/S 731-95, P.O.B. 109600, West Palm Beach, FL, 33410-9600 ***To reply, remove "bogon" from the domain name.*** Visit my web page at: http://www.mcondic.com/