From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII X-Google-Thread: 103376,517611567e1815f2 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: David Starner Subject: Re: Java momentum slowing ? Date: 1999/05/04 Message-ID: <372F0840.B9FCC034@aasaa.ofe.org>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 473934107 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit References: <372b0ec7.28153993@news2.ibm.net> <37289A2C.4B78EB60@rocketmail.com> <7gesv8$1bol@drn.newsguy.com> <372BB93F.7DCFD2E1@rocketmail.com> <7ggi1v$p2i@drn.newsguy.com> <372C00C6.D9AA6D72@online.no> <7gjb7d$5po$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <7gn0oo$nfi1@ftp.kvaerner.com> X-Accept-Language: en Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Organization: Oklahoma State University Mime-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 1999-05-04T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: "Tarjei Tj�stheim Jensen" wrote: > > dvdeug@my-dejanews.com wrote: > > >Why? It has nothing to do with GUI's. I might want to print from the CLI at > >anytime, and would want it to work the same way. Part of Unix's advantage is > >modularity. If something breaks, it and only it can be fixed or replaced. This > >would mix two totally unrelated things. > > How do you think MS word users would react if Microsoft told them that they > could not print their documents. Or that they would have to pay for a third > party accessory to print. What does that have to do with anything? How do you think MS word users would react if Microsoft told them that printing wasn't in the GUI modules anymore, it was now in the printing modules? Does the word "Huh?" come to mind? It's not an end-user effect, it's a internal thing. And what if MS word users were told that they can only print at 640X480 resolution? That's the equivelent of telling Unix users they can only print under X. > >Not saying that printing doesn't need some work in Unix (I still haven't got > >my printer working under Linux), but it's not X's job to do printing, and > >there is no reason it should be. > > Which is why Microsoft still makes a lot of money. Which is Windows major technical problem - lack of appropriate seperation and modularity. It's nice to have a system where, if the printing demons die, nothing but printing is affected. I admit there's a problem, but you haven't shown any reasons why there should be a connection between X and printing.