From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,517611567e1815f2 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: Corey Ashford Subject: Re: Java momentum slowing ? Date: 1999/05/02 Message-ID: <372BB93F.7DCFD2E1@rocketmail.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 473053157 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <372b0ec7.28153993@news2.ibm.net> <37289A2C.4B78EB60@rocketmail.com> <7gesv8$1bol@drn.newsguy.com> X-Accept-Language: en Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Organization: Rational Software Mime-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 1999-05-02T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: mitch@nospam wrote: > > In article <37289A2C.4B78EB60@rocketmail.com>, Corey says... > > > > >I think it will still be popular, but it seems to have split > >into two camps now - J++ / COM and Java / JavaBeans. > > J++ is dead. you have not been keep up with the new. MS killed J++. > no body was using it. > > COM (or it it COM+ or is it DCOM these daya?) only runs on windows. Where are you getting your information? COM (DCOM is really just COM with a some distribution features, COM+ is the new thing) runs on other platforms besides Microsoft (Sun and HP, if I recall correctly). Granted, though, it's primary use is on WinX platforms. Microsoft didn't kill J++ as far as I can tell. About six months ago they released VisualJ++ 6.0. Check out this Q&A at Microsoft's web site for details about the court ruling: http://msdn.microsoft.com/visualj/vjfaq.asp > only an idiot will commit their software to run on only one platform > using closed technology, and we know the world is full idiots, else > windows will not be used as much as it is. If your market was PC's, and you intended to run your code only on PC's (for whatever reason), does that make you an idiot fo using a technology which is well supported on the PC platform? > > Java and Corba are getting more popular, offcourse, there will always be > some managers, those bean counters types, with no clue about software, who > will insist on ordering M$ products for they know no better, I've worked > for one such moron. I'm not saying M$ is great stuff, but a lot of developers are using it, and that does give a developer the benefit of a large base of coders banging away at problems and finding work-arounds for M$ weirdities. I think you're burying your head in the sand if you don't recognize that M$ is and will continue to be a force to reckon with in the software world.