From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,d275ffeffdf83655 X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public X-Google-Thread: 146b77,d275ffeffdf83655 X-Google-Attributes: gid146b77,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,d275ffeffdf83655 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 115aec,d275ffeffdf83655 X-Google-Attributes: gid115aec,public X-Google-Thread: 101b33,d275ffeffdf83655 X-Google-Attributes: gid101b33,public X-Google-Thread: f849b,d275ffeffdf83655 X-Google-Attributes: gidf849b,public X-Google-Thread: f5d71,d275ffeffdf83655 X-Google-Attributes: gidf5d71,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,d275ffeffdf83655 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public From: johnb@invision.co.uk (John Birch) Subject: Re: Ada vs C++ vs Java Date: 1999/01/18 Message-ID: <36a3281a.11980677@news.demon.co.uk>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 433969742 X-NNTP-Posting-Host: invision.demon.co.uk:158.152.59.42 References: <369C1F31.AE5AF7EF@concentric.net> <369DDDC3.FDE09999@sea.ericsson.se> <369e309a.32671759@news.demon.co.uk> <369F0592.94F9DDDA@dresdner-bank.com> <77pnr4$ch3$1@newnews.global.net.uk> X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 916662911 nnrp-05:21764 NO-IDENT invision.demon.co.uk:158.152.59.42 Reply-To: johnb@invision.co.uk Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c++,comp.vxworks,comp.lang.java,comp.java.advocacy,comp.realtime,comp.arch.embedded,comp.object,comp.lang.java.programmer Date: 1999-01-18T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: On Sun, 17 Jan 1999 06:53:08 GMT, Matthew Heaney wrote: >"John Birch" writes: > >> The reason IMHO is that C++ inherently relies upon dynamic memory >> allocation! It's really as simple as that. If you can show me how to >> calculate the maximum amount of memory required by a given C++ program then >> I'll reconsider, until then I'll continue using C without malloc and free! > >When does C++ "inherently rely upon dynamic memory allocation"? > OK, say I have the following; Complex one (1), Complex two (2), Complex three (3), Complex four (4); Complex Sum; Sum = one + two + three + four; If Complex is a class with an overloaded + operator, I get temporary objects generated (possibly at the compiler's option) in the above statement. Since it can be written as; Sum = operator + (operator + (operator +(one, two), three), four); Now where do these temporary objects get created? On the stack, or on the heap. In C the stack size (without recursion) can never grow beyond the maximum of the total of the stack requirements of all of the functions defined. How do I calculate the potential stack size in C++? There is inherent dynamic memory allocation going on here, it is irrelevant whether it is satck or heap. I (the coder) did not explicitly allocate memory, the language (or rather the implementation of the language) did. regards John B.